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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 06:24pm Nov 4, 2002 EST (# 5458 of 5461) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

mazza9 11/4/02 6:14pm - - you're dealing with human beings - - and it makes sense to deal with them that way - - even if you're preparing to kill them - as one of your options.

War, after all, might not be the best option. There are costs.

Including moral costs.

To make peace - the accomodations that have to occur have to be worked out - - and unless that is possible, there is no alternative to standoff or war.

I hope people representing nations on the U.N. Security Council are reading this - - because they need to have - and need to insist on - solutions besides war that can actually work with human beings . It is intolerable if such solutions are ruled out.

I'm not ruling out military responses - I'm something of an expert on them (and with a little time - I can prove that) - but they ought not to be the only option.

Military people, who risk their own lives, or who have to order others into harm's way, ought to agree.

rshow55 - 06:42pm Nov 4, 2002 EST (# 5459 of 5461) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

5446 rshow55 11/4/02 11:30am

One could look at
Oct 30: 5380-81 rshow55 10/30/02 11:34am
Oct 31: 5409 rshow55 10/31/02 12:19pm
Nov 1: 5437 rshow55 11/1/02 8:40am
Nov 1: 5441 rshow55 11/1/02 12:23pm
Nov 1: 5442 lchic 11/1/02 2:06pm
and think that the MD forum might be being influential in the discourse about Iraq at the United Nations. I hope so - and think that, at the least, lchic and I have succeeded in setting out some arguments congruent with some useful discussions going on at the UN.

Doing so, we are serving the reasonable national interest of the United States of America.

5402 rshow55 10/31/02 1:19pm ... 5403 rshow55 10/31/02 10:28am

mazza9 - 06:59pm Nov 4, 2002 EST (# 5460 of 5461)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries


The Clinton Administration negotiated the North Korean "deal", (it was never submitted to the Senate for ratification since President Clinton who has difficulty with the meaning of the word "is" termed it and "agreement" not a treaty!). Be that as it may, certain agreements were made and per contract law, certain remunerations, (500,000 tons of oil and two light water reactors to be funded by the US Japan and other parties), were paid. In return the North Koreans were to eschew their nuclear arms program!

They lied. They cheated. They didn't live up to their end of the bargain. Lie, cheat and steal are the province of the Tony Soprano! It's neither legal or just. You just don't get it!!!BTW their people are starving but the military and "ruling class" are not suffering!

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