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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 12:23pm Nov 1, 2002 EST (# 5441 of 5447) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

In negotiations going on, in rearrangements and adjustments that are going on, we want reasonable endings - good endings, endings as happy as we can make them.

. How a Story is Shaped.

For that to be possible, we need to find shared space - shared understandings.

. A Communication Model

For entirely hard-headed and practical reasons, and other reasons, we need to be able to communicate as human beings. That means, for the highest levels of function (which can be practically essential) that we have to be able to find ways to communicate at the level of our separate aesthetics .

Results on the basis of one set of assumptions or values may be beautiful - - and the very same result may be ugly in terms of another set of values and assumptions.

If the values and assumtions are clear - these things can be discussed, and arrangements can be negotiated - even when feelings are very different.

According to almost all standards, muddle is ugly.

The beauty or ugliness of a treaty, or any other arrangement, can be judged in terms of the context it was built for, and other contexts, including the context provided by data not previously considered.

As negotiations proceed - questions of what is ugly, and what is beautiful, in specific terms, can be very useful. Definition and discussion of these questions can avoid muddle, and produce arrangements that can be understood, remembered, and worked with for long times - in the face of the stresses, strains, and unforseen circumstances that have to be expected. MD5437 rshow55 11/1/02 8:40am

It seems to me that the Security Council, and the nations involved, have a chance to make the world a more beautiful place than it is today in very practical, specific, and important ways.

When the people involved have strong emotional feelings - strong aesthetic feelings - that is practically important - and to adress the reasons for those feelings - it seems to me that the formality of "disciplined beauty" described above can be useful.

lchic - 02:06pm Nov 1, 2002 EST (# 5442 of 5447)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Showalter predicting 2002 as a DIPLOMATIC MILESTONE

correction ...

' a beautiful diplomatic milestone '

lchic - 02:33pm Nov 1, 2002 EST (# 5443 of 5447)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

NLP | Tune up the mind

lchic - 02:42pm Nov 1, 2002 EST (# 5444 of 5447)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

RU coldwar/Putin from 'Science in the News'

lchic - 03:03pm Nov 1, 2002 EST (# 5445 of 5447)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Shared Space - Different Objectives

"" Tony Blair said he hoped to get Putin reading off the same page - he's not doing that yet but he might now at least be reading the same book

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