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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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- 06:19pm Oct 28, 2002 EST (#
5358 of 5362)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
For some sense of what I've been doing on this thread - in
long interaction with you as well as almarst and
lchic - - - click rshow55 in the upper left hand
corner of this posting - some material is organized for your
Some of the links in that material connect to the Guardian
Talk threads - if you click them, and want some other links
I've thought were especially interesting, click
rshowalter in the upper left hand corner of my postings
I'll want to ponder what you say in gisterme
10/28/02 3:28pm - - thanks for making such an interesting
10/28/02 4:59pm and gisterme
10/28/02 5:05pm are interesting, too.
I wonder -- who is gisterme trying to
convince? It seems to me that a good deal of interest,
nationally and internationally, has been discussed on this
thread in the last few days. Perhaps some people will find the
following links cited in 5304 rshow55
10/27/02 10:45am interesting.
Recalling efforts by many high status people in 2000 -
efforts that have gone before, and reasons our NYT- MD thread
effort was undertaken - concentrating on a new approach:
After an old posting of mine on the Guardian treads was
deleted, I reposted a briefing I gave for this thread's "Putin
stand-in" - almarst - - that I believe staffed
organizations could read with profit now. It dealt with
problems that Casey cared a lot about - that Reagan cared a
lot about (Reagan wanted to get rid of the thread of nukes -
and wanted that badly). Issues that I discussed at length with
Steve Kline. And discusses some key things about what it is to
establish facts and relations, in workable human terms, and
why it matters.
Here is that reposting, in Mankind's Inhumanity to Man -
as natural as human goodness? : #341-356 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b085/383
The word "missile defense" isn't prominant in that briefing
- but I'm proud of it anyway - and lchic and I worked
hard on it - hoping to make a difference - and make the United
States and the world safer.
- 06:53pm Oct 28, 2002 EST (#
5359 of 5362)
"...Who knows, maybe by Christmas 2009 and 475,000
additional, (posts of ) inane verbage he might
deign to admit more..."
Thanks, Lou. Progress is progress even if it is taking
place in a delusional world. :-)
- 07:40pm Oct 28, 2002 EST (#
5360 of 5362)
I'm impressed that you've apparantly mastered the use of
large fonts, lchic. Congratulations.
"...Can Americans Count..."
Sure, at least the ones that haven't been "educated"
"...Do Americans Count..."
Of course they do. They count their blessings...even the
ones that have been "educated" recently.
"....What do they Count for..."
They count one-for-one with other people in the world.
"...Who doesn't Count..."
Only those who have been "educated" recently. Lots of them
don't know how.
"...Americans demonstrate no respect for
...'' The violence in our society is as relentless and
impersonal as an automobile assembly line..."
I handn't noticed.
"...We murder one another by the tens of thousands in
this country, and there is no sign anywhere that that is about
What you fail to mention is that that is no different than
anywhere else. How many Austrailians have been murdered last
couple of weeks lchic? Please don't forget the Bali bombing
when you consider that question.
- 07:46pm Oct 28, 2002 EST (#
5361 of 5362)
"...You've made many postings according to the
conventions - stated and unstated - of this thread..."
What convetntions are those, Robert? Is there a New York
Times web page that states what those conventions are for the
Missile Defense forum? What do you mean by "unstated"
conventions? I'm even more mystified than before. Is this a
question you consider important or one you'd rather not
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