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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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- 12:16am Oct 28, 2002 EST (#
5311 of 5324)
"...Gisterme I'm hearing you say
Let's nuke frogs and scorpions!..."
You should get an appointment to have your hearing/reading
comprehension checked. Who said anything about nukeing anybody
except you? Are you now regretting publishing your own story,
that you said held a lot of truth? This is the story: ( lchic
10/26/02 5:05pm )
"...A scorpion wanted to cross a river, but could not
swim. So he asked a frog to ferry him across on his back.
“Certainly not,” said the frog, “If I take you on my back,
you’ll sting me.” “No I won’t,” said the scorpion, “because if
I do, we’ll both drown.” The frog saw the logic in this, so he
let the scorpion hop on, and struck out across the water. Half
way across, he felt a terrible pain. The scorpion had stung
him. As the two of them sank below the ripples, the frog asked
the scorpion: “Why on earth did you do that?” Replied the
drowning scorpion, “Because this is the Middle East.”..."
You then said:
"..."...Like many jokes, that one contains more truth
than one would wish..."
I said (gisterme
"Can't disagree with that lchic. That's exactly why we
need a missile defense. If those folks (meaning Iraq, N.
Korea and Iran) weren't trying so hard to get nuclear armed
ballistic missiles, I might not feel that way. But they
How you can jump to the conlusion that I would like to see
anybody nuked from that exchange is beyond me. It does make me
doubt your sanity. Why does my desire to see frogs protected
from scorpions so offend you, lchic? And how is development of
a missile defense to protect innocent people from being nuked
transformed in your mind to a threat of nuking somebody?
That's the mode we've lived in since the fiftys. Anybody that
proscribes to the continuation of MAD is just that...mad.
"...Isn't that taking the Carlyle profit motive a little
Huh? What does profit motive of any kind have to do with
your story of the frog and the scorpion? You seem to have been
in a bit over your head last night, lchic.
- 12:36am Oct 28, 2002 EST (#
5312 of 5324)
"...Cohesive inclusive societies that offer 'roles' for
all their players are a defence in themselves..."
That's exactly why the United States is the most
phenomonally successful nation-state in history.
Like Robert trying to make "standins" that have no basis in
reality? He constantly trys to make me be Condoleeza
Rice. He knows I'm not but continues anyway, just to stroke
his ego I suppose.
Just like you proposed to do by making the "emeritus/elite"
responsible for deciding the future of humanity. All
non-emeritus are outsiders in that they are not counted worthy
of producing worthwhile opinions.
"...Not seeking 'truth'..."
You and Robert don't only "not seek truth" you deny it when
you are immersed in it.
"...Failing in the 'empathy' department..."
Like saying that a desire to defend one's self is somehow a
desire to nuke somebody else. Like blaming the innocent for
the acts of tyrants. Yup. Like transforming all non-emeritus
to second class citizen status.
"...All these factors lead to unhappy people who may go
on to 'kick' the system for negative attention."
You've made a pretty comprehensive listing of your and
Robert's modus operandi on this thread. No wonder you tow
never seem very happy.
You seem to be failing in your own paragidm in that you
don't get much attention of any kind from anybody that you
might consider important.
- 12:51am Oct 28, 2002 EST (#
5313 of 5324)
"...WHY NO CHECKING PROCEDURES and STANDARDS ?..."
Since this is a missile defense forum, let's take that test
program as an example. The entire MD test program is a
checking procedure to insure that the system lives up
to the design standards it is intended to meet.
Get a life, Robert. You're just upset that you are
not privvy to details that are none of your business.
No modern engineering project could ever be completed
successfully without checking and standards. Why do you try to
fabricate the illusion that checking and standards do not
exist? You're a few hundred years too late to claim them as
I suppose your nonsensical question falls under the
"failure to seek the truth" part of the Showalter/lchic world
conquest method. Either that or you reveal an astounding
ignorance about real engineering development projects
or real development projects of any kind.
Which is it, Robert?
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