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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 09:24am Oct 27, 2002 EST (# 5295 of 5307)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Africa - Somalia / Ivory Coast .... peace
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/default.stm

lchic - 09:31am Oct 27, 2002 EST (# 5296 of 5307)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Sir John Sulston (Nobel Prize Winner)
"We must keep this basic information free"

"A scientist's role is to discover," he explained. "We have a crucial role to communicate, but we do not have the unique right to decide. That is for the democratic public after being well informed."

A fervent believer in sharing information for human and scientific good, Sir John explained how he will continue to rally against the megalomaniacs of the scientific world.

"There are always people who are trying to appropriate the common good for their own ends and one has to continue to battle against that," he asserted.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2357013.stm

lchic - 09:36am Oct 27, 2002 EST (# 5297 of 5307)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

RU - THAT GAS -

The latest health ministry statement says that 118 hostages - 28 more than previously reported - and up to 50 Chechen rebels died after troops stormed the theatre on Saturday.

Many hostages are in a serious condition

As the death toll rose, two foreign nationals were reported to have died from gas poisoning. Russia has maintained that none of the deaths were caused by gas.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2365383.stm

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Human rights group Amnesty International is pressing for an independent inquiry to reveal details of the gas used during the Russian military operation to end the Moscow theatre siege.

The Russian could have used BZ in the theatre, but perhaps in higher concentrations

Dr. Christopher Holstege, University of Virginia Hundreds of freed hostages are still in hospital, many suffering severe after-effects - including poisoning, confusion and memory loss.

Judith Arena, Amnesty International spokeswoman, told the BBC that the group wanted to determine whether the use of gas "was the proportionate response and within the law" to end the hostage crisis.

Russia has so far declined to give any details about the gas, maintaining that none of the hostages was killed as a result of its usage.

Banned agent? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2365525.stm

lchic - 09:39am Oct 27, 2002 EST (# 5298 of 5307)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

BBC country_profiles

Full profiles provide an instant guide to history, politics and economic background of countries. They also include audio and video clips from the BBC archives.

<< Select a country >>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/country_profiles/html/default.stm

lchic - 09:43am Oct 27, 2002 EST (# 5299 of 5307)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

GU talk || Gore Vidal claims 'Bush junta' complicit in 9/11

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?50@@.3ba767cf/1

    Guardian Talk International

lchic - 10:01am Oct 27, 2002 EST (# 5300 of 5307)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The need for 'standards'

The need for 'truth'

The need for 'safety'

The need for 'checking'

The need for 'truth'

are all illustrated in the MoscowTheatreGas incident ..

The bombs did not go off

The BANG of explosion replaced by the silence of GAS

Deaths, blown minds, poisoned bodies .... the toll rises and rises .....

SILENCE
Years of non-communication
made it a no-win situation

Difficult decisions on risk
with guaranteed poor outcomes

So what is stopping Moscow from naming the gas - to enable treatment of the 'dying'!

Isnt' there a case of it being

MORALLY FORCING !


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