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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 11:59am Oct 26, 2002 EST (# 5252 of 5258)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Globally - the people hand over to politicians and their ilk

Globally - people are not a part of process

Globally - problems and solutions are dealt with by a small team or by an individual

Globally - there are instances of war and mayhem

Globally - the emphasis may be power or business interest .... coated in greed

Globally - people do have the skills to give improved process

Globally - there should be more analysis searching out the TRUE FACTS of situations .... leading to improved policies and resolutions

rshow55 - 12:09pm Oct 26, 2002 EST (# 5253 of 5258) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

From before 9/11 - something that might be reconsidered, with some modifications:

rshowalter - 01:39pm Sep 1, 2001 EST (#8296

MD6932 rshowalter 7/11/01 4:24pm . . . MD6934 rshowalter 7/11/01 5:03pm

Several times on this thread, in coordination with Lunarchick , and in dialog with almarst , this has been suggested

" Crafting a fully workable, fully complete, fully explained "draft treaty proposal" for nuclear disarmament and a more militarily stable world. Such drafting would, at the least, make for stunningly good journalism -- that could be widely syndicated among papers. Useful as that would be, I think the drafting would serve a much more useful purpose. That purpose would be actually getting the points that need to be worked out for nuclear disarmament, and the military balances that peace would take, set out coherently - - to a level where closure actually occurs. That would involve a great deal of staff work done coherently, quickly, and in coordinated fashion."

"I think that conditions are ripening for getting something like this done. Some leaders of nation states involved (not necessarily all of them) would need to want it done -- and would need to let that be known, to people who had resources that mattered for the effort.

_ _ _ _ _

Today, much more discussion of terrorism, and relations between other nations and the Islamic nations, would need to be considered, as well.

The motivations for this sort of thing are getting greater - because problems are getting clearer - and people are getting good sense enough to know fear - and concern.

Things need to be sorted out - and we could do a lot better than we're doing.

rshow55 - 12:13pm Oct 26, 2002 EST (# 5254 of 5258) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Most of the staff that would be needed to do that work could be found - with funding - in news organizations from all over the world. Focusing on facts would not be particularly difficult - with reasonable umpiring - and the multiple crosschecking now available with the internet.

5251-52 lchic 10/26/02 11:55am make important, basic points.

We know enough to do much better than we're now doing. Much of what we know, that could be useful - has already been posted on this thread by lchic.

lchic - 12:20pm Oct 26, 2002 EST (# 5255 of 5258)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

That either Iraq or Iran was responsible for the gassing of Kurds raises the questions

WHAT DON'T WE KNOW

WHY ARE WE LIED TO

WHO GAINS

WHO LOOSES

WHY NO CHECKING PROCEDURES and STANDARDS ?

lchic - 12:26pm Oct 26, 2002 EST (# 5256 of 5258)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

GU talk International search on NYT OP-ED writer 'Krugman' reveals international interest in aspects of his work!

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