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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 05:54pm Oct 25, 2002 EST (# 5221 of 5230)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

COMPARATIVE COMPARISON COMPARATIVE COMPARISON

Patterns compared

Patterns of Leadership

Patterns offered to the populace

Patterns of truth

Patterns of lies

Patterns that hide basic human facts

Patterns of propaganda

Patterns 'for going to war'

Patterns 'for smashing to smithereens' others

Patterns of culture

Patterns of disparity

P A T T E R N S

Putin-Bush there are similar patterns to their leadership being

Putin | Chechnya

Bush | Iraq

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rshow55 - 06:21pm Oct 25, 2002 EST (# 5222 of 5230) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

If you want to look at impressive work on this particular thread -- search lchic -- and if you want to be much more impressed, search lchic and lunarchick for all the NYT boards. And on the Guardian boards, too.

She's the most valuable, beautiful mind I've ever been close to. A treasure. An honor to work with.

My bet is, working as she does, she'll not only make the world a more beautiful place, in many, many ways - - she'll also save more lives than Schindler. By combining erudition and grace - and making things personal enough that they are vivid and realistic.

Schindler's list:
http://www.pbs.org/holocaust/schindler/
http://www.filmsite.org/schi.html

lchic - 06:50pm Oct 25, 2002 EST (# 5223 of 5230)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

WAR and PEACE with an emphasis on PEACE is what international leaders have to consider.

Working for war?

Working for peace?

Working for peace through war may have been considered to be 'the way' when the world was simpler, slower, sailing ship ... but that option isn't a real option today.

Cultures are strong!
Cultures are internationalised.
Cultures can't be quietened!

War and Peace / Tolstoy
Encompassed FATE.

FATE was seen as beyond human control.

A bad workman blames his tools.
A bad manager blames others.
A bad leader/manager blames others.
A good leader/manager knows the outcomes are within their sphere of control.

Others are far away - people with whom we have been socialised to have little concern for - as numbers or roaches they can be stamped on, eliminated, they are not seen and felt as being real.

Yet there are no 'Others' in the world, there are people, real people, real human beings ... replicas of ourselves living within evolved social systems.

The deaths of random individuals in Washington by 'bullet' via the mixed-up mind of a Gulf-veteran wasn't the death of 'Others' ... it was the death of real humans who had roles to play within real family units.

The theatre audience in Moscow is seen as composed of real people, some with links to Australia - including Professor Bobbit ranked highly in the CardioField at Bakersville USA. The world and it's people are real and interlinked - in Moscow he had established and worked in with a similar medical entity.

Military Patterns of training try to destroy the human element of empathy. The Sniper demonstrated a lack of empathy.

Those holding an audience have blocked empathy, shooting those who try to escape. The how and why of their empathy blockage relates to the recent history of their culture.

One Putin-Bush patten is an oil pipe!

The oil flows of and through Chechnya-Afghanistan-Iraq, the dollars generated, materialsPower, politicalPower, are familiar patterns. The suffering of local people in oil zones is a recurring pattern.

lchic - 06:53pm Oct 25, 2002 EST (# 5224 of 5230)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Brain - Senate - the only one - gone

The Senator who voted against going to war with Iraq has fallen from the sky!

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