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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 11:50pm Oct 19, 2002 EST (# 5074 of 5081) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

A Lover of Literary Puzzles By CELESTINE BOHLEN http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/19/books/19ECO.html?pagewanted=all&position=top

Umberto Eco says he invents "enormous lies that produce something true."

Maybe I'm Ishmael http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/289

If so, at least this is true - - - "the powers that be" are afraid to check me - - - because they've told many, many lies.

Links to CIA and my security problems: 3774-3779 rshow55 8/17/02 5:58pm

American citizens, who pay taxes and vote - ought to care.

People from all over the world - - who want to live and live decently - should also care.

The stakes are high - - http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/364

During the Cold War - some fully sentient, very well informed Americans did some terrible things - knowingly -- expecting their actions would be redeemed when peace came.

Casey would not have been surprised by the actions of Saddam - - indeed, I have no reason to doubt that he supported (or knowingly tolerated) the worst things set out in

. UNDERSTANDING IRAQ . Carol Williams, executive producer; Jon Schriber, senior producer; produced by NBC News Productions and the Discovery Channel; Forrest Sawyer, correspondent.

and

. THE REAL SADDAM . Ann Derry, executive producer; Ken Levis, producer; co-produced by the Discovery Channel and New York Times Television.

reviewed in Hussein's Contradictions: Reformer and Feared Killer By SREENATH SREENIVASAN http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/18/arts/television/18SADD.html

Casey expected that after the fall of the Soviet Union we could do much better . He didn't see military expenditure as a gravy train - as the new "pork" - streamlined - and immune to criticism.

William Casey Director, Central Intelligence Agency Major Issues Lecture Series Asbrook Center for Public Affairs at Ashland University Topic: The Status of U.S. Intelligence in the U.S. Today October 27, 1986

http://www.ashbrook.org/sounds/ram/casey_86-10-27_speech.ram http://www.ashbrook.org/events/lecture/1986/casey.html

rshow55 10/12/02 10:30am explains some basic reasons for my five year involvement with the New York Times . I hope 4923-4827 also explains some of the reasons why I've been so grateful for help from the Guardian-Observer

4824 rshow55 10/12/02 10:32am refers to Psychwarfare, Casablanca . . . and terror #330-338 and includes this:

" I've now taken steps where one can argue that I ought to be jailed (though I think Casey would argue otherwise). "

I think there is good reason to expect that those steps have been noticed by the government of the United States. I hope they've been noticed by other people and other governments, as well. It may be that, considering everything, the United States led nearly the best Cold War possible. But the Cold War should be over - - - and there are messes to acknowledge, and clean up. I believe that if we did so - - we'd be living an a time of great, realistic hope.

lchic - 04:24am Oct 20, 2002 EST (# 5075 of 5081)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

feudalism vs democracy

http://www.geocities.com/newworldorder_themovie/feudalismvsdemocracy.html

lchic - 04:31am Oct 20, 2002 EST (# 5076 of 5081)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Iraq | Bush vs Church | Bush vs intelligentsia

War plans under fire as even Bush heartland talks peace

Dissent is coming from all quarters - even in Bush's own church.

http://www.observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,815413,00.html

lchic - 04:41am Oct 20, 2002 EST (# 5077 of 5081)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The uprising of the intelligentsia has burst its banks.

(above)

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