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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 06:52pm Oct 19, 2002 EST (# 5055 of 5063)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~


Word History: The chaos of war is reflected in the semantic history of the word war.

War can be traced back to the Indo-European root *wers-, “to confuse, mix up.”

In the Germanic family of the Indo-European languages, this root gave rise to several words having to do with confusion or mixture of various kinds.

One was the noun *werza-, “confusion,” which in a later form *werra- was borrowed into Old French, probably from Frankish, a largely unrecorded Germanic language that contributed about 200 words to the vocabulary of Old French.

From the Germanic stem came both the form werre in Old North French, the form borrowed into English in the 12th century, and guerre (the source of guerrilla) in the rest of the Old French-speaking area. Both forms meant “war.”

Meanwhile another form derived from the same Indo-European root had developed into a word denoting a more benign kind of mixture, Old High German wurst, meaning “sausage.”

Modern German Wurst was borrowed into English in the 19th century, first by itself (recorded in 1855) and then as part of the word liverwurst (1869), the liver being a translation of German Leber in Leberwurst.

[ lchic | ah AH! So war is a 'Sausage Sizzle' ]

mazza9 - 07:03pm Oct 19, 2002 EST (# 5056 of 5063)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

You may call it a diversion but I am exercising my rights to comment in this forum. You won't show me your warrant. You won't divulge the name of the person who assigned you the job of moderator. You are a blowhard and a mountebank.

lchic posts some of the worst, (wurst) drivel this side of MAD magazine without any of the humor or intelligence of that august tome.

Robert you are a blowhard and I have'nt even mined the depth of my adjectives to describe you.

Once again I ask. Who made you the forum sheriff. Showalter your badge!! Put up or shut up!

lchic - 07:15pm Oct 19, 2002 EST (# 5057 of 5063)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

War | chaos

War | removal of civil standards

War | a free for all - death mayham

War | a 'test' without rules for 'WAR-riors'

War | a failure in diplomacy

War | a greed-grab of an-others wealth

War | a whole techno-military industry with Commi$$ions

War | a deflection for the economic - civil

War | a 'game' without penal consequence

War | a death of people, ideas, old values

lchic - 07:18pm Oct 19, 2002 EST (# 5058 of 5063)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

WAR the free-for-all

    without 'rules'
    or civil consequence
Let's put the word 'war' in the trash bin

Okay so now there is NO-war

Meaning every action becomes a CIVIL action

With a CIVIL consequence

Meaning the victims of improper strikes have rights!

The right to go back to the striking warriors and ask for 'compensation'

lchic - 07:23pm Oct 19, 2002 EST (# 5059 of 5063)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Diplomacy and good world goverance start to have value.

The functioning of a world LAW body - with an ability to stop chaos, to stop monsters, to stop disputes blowing out is paramount.

Nation States not wanting civil compensation claims against them - would then adjust to working throught the world body - it backed by Nation States.

Again suggesting that there is a real need for a body such as the UN to actually function in real terms, to be funded in real terms, to 'listen' to arguments, to adjudicate them, to make 'people' (not job labels) ultimately responsible for the decisions made from their minds.

War is often a 'state of mind' .... and minds should be civil!

lchic - 07:27pm Oct 19, 2002 EST (# 5060 of 5063)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

This being so - it then lessens the propaganderists labelling of people as 'others' ... from 'elsewhere' .... others without value and standing .... others who can at at whim be dispensed with!

Others are
daughters and

Others want rights
not strikes
in the night

Others are

Others are

Others are
through the fence!


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