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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 11:52am Oct 11, 2002 EST (# 4808 of 4813) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

That "see-no-evil, hear-no-evil, report-no-evil posture" has undermined the agency for more than a decade -and made the last decade unnecessarily difficult, not only for me, but for many. Casey was fighting a cold war - - and he was being brutal - and knew it. But I think he would have been entirely supportive of my actions here (and I've been trying to follow his advice to "come in throught the New York Times" for years now) - - and would, finally, have regarded my posting from #330-339 on in Psychwarfare, Casablance - - - and terror http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/352 . . as a necessary step - taken after all other reasonable alternatives had been exhausted.

# 338 includes this:

" I was assigned to find a way to match animal guidance capacities in the late 1960's, at the height of the Cold War .

" I believe that I have done so.

" People who guided me at that time were entirely sure of what would happen if our missile components could be guided with the facility animals show. It would become technically easy to shoot down winged aircraft. It would become technically easy to detect and destroy submarines. It would become technically easy to sink ships.

" The world has changed, and now I believe that it makes sense, for the whole world, to achieve that performance - and have the technology to do it widely known.

" I am doing my very best to do what I can to set up conditions for stable, durable, humanly comfortable peace and security - for the United States first and foremost, but with a decent regard for the needs of other other nations as well. I'm doing so, according to my promises to Bill Casey -- to the best of my ability."

Casey, who fought the Cold War so ruthlessly and so hard - would have been appalled at what we've done afterwards - and the chances lost - perhaps through paralysis as much as corruption.

We need to do much better. To do so - we need to sweep away a mass -a web - of fictions - and sort things out workably.

Casey was not planning on a permanent subversion of American values.

We need to think about not only justice, but redemption - remediation - in a sense that old, tough deal-making lawyers like Casey actually know well. Secular Redemption http://talk.guardianunlimited.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/619

Here is a fact - - and one that our nation, and the world, has to learn to accomodate:

. It is now technically easy to shoot down every winged aircraft the US or any other nation has, or can expect to build - to detect every submarine - and to sink every surface ship within 500 miles of land - the technology for doing this is basic - and I see neither technical nor tactical countermeasures.

The whole world needs to know it, partly because US institutions have become so inflexible that I've been ten years trying to deliver the message - through the channels Casey told me to use -- and been rebuffed.

It is time to sort ourselves out, and make a more peaceful, stable world. We can.

mazza9 - 11:55am Oct 11, 2002 EST (# 4809 of 4813)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

Robert

You are constantly rebuffed because your postings are always "loosing their shine!" You "BOLD" statements are hooey!(technical term). Your stating that an particular assertion is a fact doesn't make it so. How many times have the Iraq defense forces fired AAA and missiles at No Fly Zone sorties during the past 10 years? Answer: "In the tgousands! How many aircraft have been shot down? NONE, NADDA, does the concept ZERO ring a bell? Your the supposed mathematician. Can you factor ZERO? When you raise ZERO to infinity what do you get? By Gosh, I remember my Algebra I. I do believe the answer is ZERO!!!!!

"It is now technically easy to shoot down every winged aircraft the US or any other nation has, or can expect to build - to detect every submarine - and to sink every surface ship within 500 miles of land - the technology for doing this is basic - and I see neither technical nor tactical countermeasures."

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I reitierate: ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO! ZERO!

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lchic - 11:57am Oct 11, 2002 EST (# 4810 of 4813)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The 'By Gosh' in the post above doesn't sit with Mazza's style ... more Gisterme.

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