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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 04:14am Sep 30, 2002 EST (# 4671 of 4676)
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Iraq *****

Australian 37yr defense worker - Brigadier Adrian D'Hage said ...

The Bush-envisaged war with Iraq would be a short war, with a long tail.

250,000 Americans and others would be killed in hand to hand fighting.

75,000 troups for TEN-FIFTEEN years would have to be placed there

America 5% of world population uses far far too much energy - were America to CUT its usage, to be more efficient, to go GREEN .... then their need for oil would be less

[ lchic: In fact were American Foundations or the US government to put 200billion into world wide R&D to develop alternative energy - there would be less need for oil, less need to worry about the 'badman', less pollution and carbon pollutant - pity some of these US foundations can't help fund R&D green developments that will benefit the world ]

Pushing Iraq to war would lead to the 'badman' determining to use unethical methods of killing - including bio

The Guy noted that:

America had a foreign policy history of not supporting popular democracy

America had a history of not working with and through INTERNATIONAL - world - ORGANIZATIONS, including the world court rised case of Reagan Bush fine of 18 billion - which they refused to pay - refusing to recognise the world court ...

If you look at Reagan's efforts against the Sandinista Government in Nicaragua where he armed and trained the Contras, the International Court found the US guilty of what, basically, was international terrorism, ordered them to pay $18 billion in reparations, and the US response was, "we don't recognise the International Court". So, it's that sort of arrogance that continues to build this sort of resentment, and unless we address that, this war ultimately, will be lost.

lchic - 04:19am Sep 30, 2002 EST (# 4672 of 4676)
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America was guilty of

international terrorism

That's why the 'world' is pretty cool on the Bush Push for war!


UK : Seems the EU head of Carlyle sent a good magazine broke 1993 when they published info on one of his affairs ..... Major's credibility has SUNK ... well done Edwina!

lchic - 04:23am Sep 30, 2002 EST (# 4673 of 4676)
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Q: What surprised you most about your investigation?

A: (King) - We weren't necessarily surprised, but we were certainly left with a reconfirmation that human nature ... human crimes ... haven't changed at all in over 3,000 years. The things that motivate human behavior - power, dominion, control - are the same now as they were in Tut's day.

lchic - 04:30am Sep 30, 2002 EST (# 4674 of 4676)
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America, as suggested above, should look at it's actions and antics of C20.

Should appologise to people still hurting, grieving, displaced, families split-broken.

Should look at it's past Foreign policy.

Should talk about OIL.

Should say who gained what from unnecessary violence.

Should disclose all and draw a double line under the past.

It would gain world respect from being honest - it will have to do this (?) - before it can move forward.


If there's a push to once again make Europe the center of power - has a larger population than North America - and if invention, R&D, innovation, new product evolve there .... the American Empire (out of the control of it's own Parliament) would be much reduced.

lchic - 04:59am Sep 30, 2002 EST (# 4675 of 4676)
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American Foreign Policy ( it is said ) changes every 24 hours .....

Ask an American what their Foreign Policy was 24 hours ago .... and they won't know

Above, a radio sound bite - [repost]

lchic - 05:09am Sep 30, 2002 EST (# 4676 of 4676)
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Guardian ~ Talk International

    "This is the largest march for peace I have seen in 30 years. Nothing can take the British people into a war that they do not accept and do not want.

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