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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 12:44pm Sep 27, 2002 EST (# 4584 of 4586) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

The disk rshowalt 7/19/02 9:16am is a standard (small diameter) CD - works in just about any computer or laptop. It includes parts of this thread since March 2002, but also the part - from May 25, 2000, that was deleted then.

email me at mrshowalter@thedawn.com

(and if I don't respond, please telephone me - 608-829-3657) - and I'll be honored to send you a copy of the disk.

I've been slow to get the disk out - because I've kept hoping that the government would act in the national interest, and talk to me. (Instead, they seem to be acting only in the interest of people committed to wasting huge amounts of money and concealing key things all Americans should be able to know.)

I'd be happy if everybody in the Senate and House of Representatives - and everybody running for major office, had a copy - but that, I know, is just a dream. Though it seems to me that if the material on the disk were available, and checked, we'd live in a much safer world - and the national security would be much stronger.

If any U.S. military officer on active duty, with stars on their shoulders, would like to discuss why I think so, in public, I'd be happy to do so.

lchic - 01:33pm Sep 27, 2002 EST (# 4585 of 4586)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

1980's

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html
As president of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan became embroiled in disputes over the issue of Communism in the film industry; his political views shifted from liberal to conservative. He toured the country as a television host, becoming a spokesman for conservatism.

Voters troubled by inflation and by the year-long confinement of Americans in Iran swept the Republican ticket into office. In foreign policy, Reagan sought to achieve "peace through strength." During his two terms he increased defense spending 35 percent, but sought to improve relations with the Soviet Union. In dramatic meetings with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, he negotiated a treaty that would eliminate intermediate-range nuclear missiles. Reagan declared war against international terrorism, sending American bombers against Libya after evidence came out that Libya was involved in an attack on American soldiers in a West Berlin nightclub.

By ordering naval escorts in the Persian Gulf, he maintained the free flow of oil during the Iran-Iraq war. In keeping with the Reagan Doctrine, he gave support to anti- Communist insurgencies in Central America, Asia, and Africa.

Overall, the Reagan years saw a restoration of prosperity, and the goal of peace through strength seemed to be within grasp. http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ http://www.whitehouse.gov/

Iraq Iran

http://www.newsdex.net/iraqiran.html

1984 -- One of the instances reported by Iran has been conclusively verified by an international team dispatched to Iran by the UN Secretary-General.

Both Iran (1929) and Iraq (1931) are parties to the Geneva ProtocoI, which prohibits the use of asphyxiating, poisonous or other gases, and of all analogous liquids, materials or devices, as well as the use of bacteriological methods of warfare.
http://projects.sipri.se/cbw/research/factsheet-1984.html

IN 1984, IRAQ BECAME THE FIRST NATION TO USE A NERVE AGENT ON THE BATTLEFIELD WHEN IT DEPLOYED TABUN-FILLED BOMBS. TABUN KILLS WITHIN MINUTES. MORE THAN FIVE-THOUSAND IRANIANS WERE KILLED WITH THIS CHEMICAL WEAPON. IN ADDITION, SOME SIXTEEN-THOUSAND IRANIANS WERE REPORTED KILLED BY IRAQI MUSTARD GAS BETWEEN AUGUST 1983 AND FEBRUARY 1986. THE VICTIMS OF SADDAM'S CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACKS ALSO INCLUDED HUNDREDS OF IRAQI KURDS -- MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN -- GRUESOMELY KILLED IN THE TOWN OF HALABJA IN MARCH 1988.

THE WORLD WAS SLOW TO RECOGNIZE THE MENACE OF IRAQI CHEMICAL WEAPONS.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/1998/980310-iraq.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/ http://www.globalsecurity.org/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/webinator/search/

Usa gave Chemical Weapons to Iraq during Iran-Iraq war (see next next) http://www.persianfootball.com/forums/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=632&forum=2&start=0
Note : 2002 Aug 17 - NYT ran article || Both the Defense Intelligence Agency and retired Lt. Gen. Leonard Perroots, who supervised the program as the head of the agency, refused to comment, the Times said.

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