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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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commondata - 07:36am Sep 26, 2002 EST (# 4552 of 4557)

"One presumes Showalter is responding to Johnson here - what was his last moniker - 'commondata' ?"

Hello lchic, no I'm not Johnson, and humbler than Mazza. This thread makes more sense to me than most; I wish I had more to contribute but a man's gotta know when he's outclassed, eh? Back to "Paradigm Shifts - are you getting there?" and Robert's S-K theory. Interesting. I'm working slowly, carefully, checking!

lchic - 09:10am Sep 26, 2002 EST (# 4553 of 4557)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Pakistan's inhumanity to women http://abc.net.au/tv/guide/h171931.htm

The President of Pakistan outlines above how important it is for Pakistan to spend money on the nuclear arsenal ... and that issues such as ignorance, rural poverty, reducing the ignorance of men, rule of LAW, the killing of women, are very minor matters to him!

lchic - 09:56am Sep 26, 2002 EST (# 4554 of 4557)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

creativity - invention - innovation - manufacturing and production process - marketing - positioning - selling - consumption take-up - trendsetters - basic consumers

Creativity relates to insights, hardwork, seeing and fulfilling a need

Invention is hard work - the long haul, the long slog, hard yakka, thinking, working and reworking, insight. Motivated most often a desire to contribute to culture and make the world a better place.

In discussion with Showalter and with respect to Johnson, he had been lead to believe by him, that GJ had family with medical profession links.

    Medics take professional vows - have ethics - do the work they do to make and improve the lives of others.
From this conversation, came the concept of the necessity for 'moral forcing' to move a paradigm shift - where acceptance improves the life and chances of all.

Showalter is confident that his life's work, when acknowledged, adds 'value' to the culture.

Let's run over the lead-up to the value again ....

Data - Pattern - Idea /creative invention - 'Value'

Showalter on this thread (above/August24approx) has taken the instance of 'reading wars' (which has aspects of thinking comparable/parallel to nuclear war thought process). He uses it to demonstrate the redundancy factor that has to be overcome before a culture can move on and improve literacy ... postings on this work are as yet incomplete and will include S-K neuro aspects.

(Showalter, at your leisure, you kindly put in links as appropriate, thanks)



lchic - 10:07am Sep 26, 2002 EST (# 4555 of 4557)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The banner under this moniker reads ~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

It got understood and exposed

This phrase might apply to aspects of corruption in a system - a lot of Americans are currently disillusioned with the 'theft/greed' aspect of business/political leaders.

The phrase can also be applied to paradigms.

The paradigm got understood and exposed - moving it into the culture to serve as a learning tool.

I always thought 'new knowledge' a good thing ... the problem re paradigm shift is that the stubborn have investment in that to become redundant - and don't know how to 'move on' maintaining status.

lchic - 10:18am Sep 26, 2002 EST (# 4556 of 4557)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Rice paper - GU talk

“Rice says US will rebuild Iraq as democracy”

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?50@@.3ba74f52/0

Post 17
It's not scary at all. That word "scary' is used far too loosely on some of these threads. Certain interests are looking for a war and they'll get a lot more than they bargained with.

Not scary so much as conceited. The conceit of those who think the world is their plaything.

They boast of their strengths and imagined strengths, yet just look at their many weaknesses. Important, because against their weaknesses we in our great diversity will pit our many strengths.

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