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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 03:32pm Sep 10, 2002 EST (# 4259 of 4264)

"" Washington Post - says no hard evidence to link Iraq with 'terrorism' ... need a public debate that distinguishes between HARD FACTS and the rest

Bush and Cheney set the goal - of evidence - no clear evidence - they've changed the goal!

(DW German Radio / Newslink / Essen Foundation for peace and conflict research )

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9/11 Germany http://dw-world.de/english/0,3367,1430_A_623034_1_A,00.html

mazza9 - 07:23pm Sep 10, 2002 EST (# 4260 of 4264)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

"Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?"

Robert, being dumb and unaccomplished I need your help. Would you please check the quotation, connect the dots and communicate to me EXACTLY what I'm missing. I find it difficult to understand lchic's focus on Iraq, ENRON, the Easter Bunny re the forum topic. Maybe you can provide a mathematical histogram which plots the B*llshit on the X Axis and the Inaneness Index on the Y Axis, (or is it Why Axis?)

lchic - 10:32pm Sep 10, 2002 EST (# 4261 of 4264)

At 11am this morning 11 Sept - an hour+ ago - I was asked by K-Mart 'to stand still for 1 minutes silence' as a mark of respect for people who died in New York last year.

So there I was, stranded in mid-stream in K-Mart, holding a significantly heavy box - with a minute to 'think' and 'reflect' and wonder why people had to die, why people are always having to die for weird politically inspired nonsense-ical causes.

The postings I post relate to the workings of 'minds' which need to work more efficiently and effectively if they're to conquer simple problems such as stopping human wastage in extreme and violent circumstance!

rshow55 - 03:21pm Sep 11, 2002 EST (# 4262 of 4264) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

mazza9 9/10/02 7:23pm ... this thread has carried a number of headings -- reviewed in 756 rshow55 3/22/02 11:54am

and from the beginning has discussed missile defense, and nuclear weapons issues, in a broad format concerned with war and peace.

755 rshow55 3/22/02 11:50am includes this - - a subject of much ongoing discussion on this thread.

"Almarst . . . said something profound - 11 March, 2001:

" The goal is not to eliminate the nuclear wearpons but to reduce if not possible to eliminate entirely the cause and consequences of War."

To do that, we must have facts - so we can "connect the dots" -- and we need some insights that are only now coming into focus -- some "easy answers" that just don't work need to be rethought.

Some of that rethinking is going on.

If you click rshow55 you'll see this: --- "If you want a sense of how good this thread is -- sample lchic's work ! - (search lchic ) - - . You'll find a wealth of thoughtful, wide-ranging citations. I think she's the most valuable mind I've ever encountered. Search lchic on other NYT threads and on the Guardian Talk threads, too. You'll be impressed. Lchic and I are partners on this thread - and she is much the better half.

I think we're both proud of the accomplishments described and put in context in MD1999 rshow55 5/4/02 10:39am

That work involved great contributions from "stand-ins" who have taken the role of senior Russian and American officials - - a role that has continued since May 12, 2001 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/198

. . .

Many times, I'm proud to take the New York Times. These last few days, especially proud.

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