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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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kalter.rauch - 05:04am Sep 7, 2002 EST (# 4217 of 4229)
Earth vs <^> <^> <^>

Not refering to a specific "Big Sister"......I'M SAYING that THIS venue ISN'T a FORUM!!!

rshow55 - 08:48am Sep 7, 2002 EST (# 4218 of 4229) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

The Bully's Pulpit By PAUL KRUGMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/06/opinion/06KRUG.html sets out points that are vital - that should be checked - and that, if checked sensibly, would stop the Bush presidency for all practical purposes.

The Bush team's pronouncements rely on doublethink, the ability to believe two contradictory things at the same time.

We are in a dangerous time in our history, when Krugman's words are speakable, and ignored. The whole world should notice.

Other Krugman pieces - and related points, are set out in Pschwar, Casablanca - - - and terror http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/296

The question of a "vast right-wing conspiracy" is raised, and given focus, in .

The Smoke Machine http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/29/opinion/29KRUG.html and Connect the Dots by PAUL KRUGMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/02/opinion/02KRUG.html

I believe that the "American Empire" is as large as it is, and has some of the characteristics that it does, because the interest of the United States, as a nation, has diverged from the interests of a "military-industrial-political complex" constructed to fight the Cold War, that has taken a dangerous degree of control over US government affairs since that time. The American "missile defense" program is interesting for some of the same reasons that the Enron affair http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/1/Transcripts/721/4/business/_ENRON-PRIMER.html . . . is interesting. The "missile defense" programs are nonsensical and corrupt, in the senses that ought to matter both technically or militarily, and illustrates broader corruptions that concern the whole world, because American power is as great as it now is, and is used as it now is.

Checking on these issues is important - but for it to happen, some leaders of nation states are going to have to be interested - as I believe they should be, because it is risky to be led, and to defer, to an administration that is taking positions that go wrong, and produce unnecessary risks, costs, and fighting, again and again.

MD1076-1077 rshow55 4/4/02 1:20pm

To sort out problems, including problems of peace (and the smaller related muddles of the missile defense boongoggle) people have to face the truth, tell the truth, and avoid misinformation.

When right answers really count, they have to "connect the dots" ( MD1055 rshow55 4/4/02 7:54am ) so that patterns emerge -- and to check those patterns.

Here are some other OpEd pieces by Paul Krugman quoted on the NYT Missile Defense thread:

The Big Lie http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/27/opinion/27KRUG.html

Bad Heir Day http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/30/opinion/30KRUG.html

The Great Divide http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/29/opinion/29KRUG.html

At Long Last? http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/05/opinion/05KRUG.html

The White Stuff http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/12/opinion/12KRUG.html

Losing Latin America http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/16/opinion/16KRUG.html

The Angry People http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/23/opinion/23KRUG.html

A number of links discussing Krugman's pieces are set out in MD1741 rshow55 4/24/02 10:37am

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This isn't a run-of-the-mill forum - - but it has been effective in the US and world interest. MD1999 rshow55 5/4/02 10:39am

What if people in power noticed this forum - - in operationally effective ways that would work within American usages? A lot might clarify, in the national and world interest.

I'll be away all day.

bbbuck - 08:56am Sep 7, 2002 EST (# 4219 of 4229)

Finally his 6month check up at Bellvue.
Have a good one partner.
Did he mention the U.S. military has attacked Iraq?

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