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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 07:53am Sep 4, 2002 EST (# 4169 of 4171)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I have tremendous respect for the references cited in 3936-3945 rshow55 8/23/02 6:11pm

But it seems to me that as far as human welfare goes, lchic's rhyme, widely taught, might do as much good as all those references put together. In part by summarizing much of what those references teach. With an added "sense of the odds" that hasn't been taught enough.

Adults need secrets, lies and fictions
To live within their contradictions

Children need secrets, lies, and fictions too. They aren't smart enough to avoid them. Neither are adults. If children and adults understood that - we'd be more humane, and solve more practical problems.

Before adults would let children learn lchic's little rhyme -- they'd have to learn some things themselves. And admit mistakes more easily, and with more sophistication than they do now.

4013 rshow55 8/29/02 7:18pm

Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

rshow55 - 07:59am Sep 4, 2002 EST (# 4170 of 4171)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

In some ways, all wars are alike. The "reading wars" have really been wars. All the follies of wars are on show. The connections to conflict discussion all through this thread are wide and deep.

Missile defense discussion is relatively easy. If you can't show that the missile defense boondoggle is a mess - it is because, these days, you can't prove anything in the face of opposition.

If you can show that the missile defense boondoggle is a mess - you can set out some very clear judgements on other military-political issues, as well.

C.P. Snow: 3999 rshow55 8/27/02 1:21pm

Simplicity isn't "mickey mouse":
4000 rshow55 8/27/02 3:51pm ... 4001 rshow55 8/27/02 4:06pm

almarst2002 - 08:53am Sep 4, 2002 EST (# 4171 of 4171)

American War Crimes During the Gulf War - http://www.mediamonitors.net/francis19.html

The Charges

The international crimes that have been charged and will be proven against these Defendants consist principally of the three Nuremberg Offences: the Nuremberg Crime Against Peace, that is waging an aggressive war and a war in violation of international treaties and agreements; Nuremberg Crimes Against Humanity; and Nuremberg War Crimes. In addition, these Defendants also committed grievous war crimes by wantonly violating the Hague Regulations on Land Warfare of 1907; the Declaration of London on Sea Warfare of 1909; the Hague Draft Rules of Aerial Warfare of 1923; the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949 and their two Additional Protocols of 1977; and the international crimes of Genocide against the People of Iraq as defined by the International Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crimes of Genocide of 1948 as well as by the United States' own Genocide Convention Implementation Act of 1987, 18 U.S.C. 1901. Finally, and most heinously of all, these Defendants actually perpetrated a Nuremberg Crime against their own troops when they forced them to take experimental biological weapons vaccines without their informed consent in gross violation of the Nuremberg Code on Medical Experimentation that has been fully subscribed to by the United States government.

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