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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 06:16pm Sep 1, 2002 EST (# 4107 of 4109) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

It seems likely to me, from some things gisterme has said, and an angry response to references about Stanford, and deans, that gisterme is Condoleezza Rice.

Politicians or journalists could easily check it. They might have good reasons to. I don't care that much. Gisterme has made the interesting postings gisterme has posted.

Whoever gisterme is, s/he works hard -- and when Putin and Bush were meeting last year - was active, minute by minute, working on what seemed to me as "spin control." If gisterme is not affiliated with the administration -- s/he's an impressive loyalist indeed.

I might also be wrong about my guess that kangdawei , who posted about 80 times in August and September last year was Ann Coulter - though she did put Coulter's web site below her name.

All anybody can do is "connect the dots" - make patterns, and then check them.

The checking part if very difficult for people to acknowledge. I've been resting mostly today, but thinking about the reasons, too. How can people be so very smart sometimes - and so stupid other times?

That's Plato's problem.

A major concern people have had for 2500+ years - and a question linked to many, maybe most stories that make the news to this day.

As for the point I've made, that it is about 1000 to a million times easier to defeat the BMD systems I've seen than build them - there's been a lot of detail about that, undisputed for a long time. So much that I'm taking my time thinking about how to present it. It has been carefully presented already. MD84 rshow55 3/2/02 11:52am links to a lot of that discussion.

wrcooper - 11:51pm Sep 1, 2002 EST (# 4108 of 4109)

You've got serious delusions of grandeur, Showalter. Condoleeza Rice? Ann Coulter? These important people would flock to a public opinion board to debate a math grad student from UWI-Madison and an obscure Aussie socialist? Are you absolutely nuts? Who on Earth would have the patience, yet alone the time, to read through your voluminous, repetitive, hypergraphic ruminations? I don't. I doubt that senior administration officials or their staffers do, either. Get real!

BTW, I'm still waiting for answers to my questions.

I'd appreciate it if you'd simply state your source(s) and explain how you arrived at the figures we discussed yesterday.

You're the person who's a stickler for "checking." So allow me to check. Give me your sources for independent verification. Explain your methods.

mazza9 - 12:58am Sep 2, 2002 EST (# 4109 of 4109)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

Cooper:

I saw "Spy Kids" tonight on HBO and they made more sense than Robert. The blindness that children exhibit is the blindness that Robert exhibits ergo quae cum ita sunt" Robert can't answer your questions. To Bad!

It was reported that the Russians will not meet the Salt II launcher and warhead limits as planned. While I suspect that these are aimed at China and not us(US), the deteriorating state of their overall systems suggests that defense measures are important. The garage door analogy may have been apochraphyl(sic) but in this era defensive measures should be taken.

When I got my MBA I was a grad assistant in the MIS department. My prof was really impressed by the movie "the Forbin Project" where a US and Russian computer link up and "take over the world" to protect humans from themselves. Who knows, maybe Robert is Forbin!!!

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