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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 01:34pm Aug 7, 2002 EST (#3546 of 3580) Delete Message

Lou.

Your reject these people out of hand because they're "not on your team?"

Questioning validity is fair. But when it is worth the trouble (and on military issues, the stakes are high enough to be worth the trouble) things can be checked.

Not everybody thinks Bush has taken the rapproachment with the Russians nearly as far as he could have, or should have. Some prominant Russians have been saying so, publicly on the record, and privately, too, if some news articles are to be believed.

To get to closure on facts, you need to look at them - - (and maybe when there are disputes - there may need to be umpires) .

rshow55 - 01:47pm Aug 7, 2002 EST (#3547 of 3580) Delete Message

I appreciate and respect the piece mrcooper posted, and I'm glad he posted it.

By the way, Cooper - why don't you give me a call on the phone? We might sort some things out. I thought my talk with Mazza was constructive. And if I've got reason to apologize to George Johnson, I'd like to do so.

In some of your deleted postings, you've questioned whether I've been reasonable, and questioned whether this thread "means anything." Well, maybe it doesn't. But the work, as a corpus, means something to me. There sure is a lot of it.

A lot of it from almarst and gisterme seems impressive to me. Seems to me, looking at it, that judging from the productivities I've seen in bureacracies, just their contributions might be cost ordinary organizations a big chunk of a million dollars in staffing costs. I think they've both done high class work, outstanding in both quality and quantity.

One reason I've been busy, and slow to do some things, is that I've been trying to resolve a security problem of my own. It seems to me that after I mail a copy of this thread up to July 17th, well organized on an 8cm disk, to the news organizations that do most of the active news-gathering in the world - it will be easier for me to talk to people -- and easier for people to talk to me.

If, as I've been told verbally but not in writing "CIA has no interest in any of my material" there should be no problem with me doing it. Once it is done, the content of this thread, which some may feel is "buried" will be less of a secret. Maybe not something people are interested in. But less of a secret.

I'm trying to prepare a good presentation to go along with the disks - pointing out that there are a lot of things that can be checked.

. . . . . .

I've sometimes felt that people have noticed this thread. If anybody objects to my mailing - and objects enough to use their right name - why not call me? If I had, in writing, some assurances from the government that I've had privately - well, my life would be easier.

Bill Casey told me, a long time ago, that sometimes it is "easier to get forgiveness, than it is to get permission." . . . . It seems to me that, after a lot of effort on my part, and on the part of others - - I'm at a time where doing this mailing makes sense. In the national interest, and in my own.

mazza9 - 02:04pm Aug 7, 2002 EST (#3548 of 3580)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

Robert:

Please! I didn't "reject". I expressed my opinion. There are a great many fellows of the World Policy Institute who have impressive credentials. They have sat on the NYTimes editorial board and other prestigious affiliations. But, I don't have to agree with them!

As long as the dialog is open the path to peace and understanding can be found. Since the 911 attack the US has had to address many foreign policy issues that have arisen from the terrorist's desire to change the world through the force of arms and fear. They have instigated a near nuclear war between Pakistan and India. The Israeli/Palestinian circumstances are volatilized by Arab propoganda and Palestinian pig headedness. In every case the Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, and Powell team has acted in measured and diplomatic manner. Yes, the big stick has been brandished and the cowardly Iraqi's have waved the white flag. Oh, they go on and on about cuting off the head of the snake and we see pictures of Saddam firing a rifle into the air but that's just what it appears. "A coward's fear"

LouMazza

wanderer85us - 02:23pm Aug 7, 2002 EST (#3549 of 3580)
You can't know your limits, until you push yourself to the limit.

mazza9 8/7/02 2:04pm

LOL

What a load of horses*it.

mazza9 - 03:17pm Aug 7, 2002 EST (#3550 of 3580)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

wanderer85us:

How erudite! How articulate!

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