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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 09:40pm Jul 24, 2002 EST (#3287 of 3327)

It's interesting that before folks can drive a car, truck, bus, train ... they have to sit and take tests - practical and knowledge.

What tests ought a President of American Empire dash World to take before running for office?

Should there be political history, diplomacy, common sense (and NUKES are not that), and should there be VISION.

Interested to see a feature above on CEO's that almost said - companies are run by the people within them, the CEO is incidental.

So what's wrong with the people within America?

Why do they have such simplistic - press the red button - misunderstanding?

lchic - 09:46pm Jul 24, 2002 EST (#3288 of 3327)

Genuine politicians - who've worked for the people - on retirement from that job, often continue to work for the people.

Wouldn't Senior Bush be better employed in the volunteer services - helping the aged, delivering meals on wheels for example, rather than sitting inside Carlyle an armament company.

If Senior Bush is paid a retired President's pension - then shouldn't he be seen to be working for the people - or give that pension back!

Wonder if he even pays full-taxes?

lchic - 10:28pm Jul 24, 2002 EST (#3289 of 3327)

Have i been talking too much ... time to let George have a say ... over to you Mr Prez
http://www.drparsons.fsnet.co.uk/georg.html

rshowalt - 10:28pm Jul 24, 2002 EST (#3290 of 3327)

What I said in
MD3277 rshowalt 7/24/02 4:53pm . . . MD3278 rshowalt 7/24/02 4:55pm
was serious.

MD3279 wrcooper 7/24/02 6:08pm . . . was evasive, involved some unnecessary lying, and was something quite different from what one would expect if Cooper (or George Johnson) didn't have quite a lot to be defensive about. I suggested that some things be checked. Why not?

Also note "Cooper's" idea of what checking is.

A matter to remember, it seems to me, is what has been accomplished, and who has done the work:
MD1999 rshow55 5/4/02 10:35am ... MD2000 rshow55 5/4/02 10:39am
MD2001rshow55 5/4/02 11:36am

Back tomorrow.

mazza9 - 10:59pm Jul 24, 2002 EST (#3291 of 3327)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

RShow55, et al

Since this is a missile defense forum might you be able to tell me what defense will work against the invectives hurled by lchic against the government and people of the United States? Oh, I know the old grammer school chant,"I'm rubber and your glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you!"

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Bad manners, name calling, and puerile invective is not the foundation upon which an intelligent, diplomatic discussion of something as important as missile defense can be promoted. To accuse the United States of torture regarding the Gitmo detainees is slander. To even bring that up in this forum is so off-topic that it should be ignored or more to the point blocked.

I've read what cooper said and I agree. You are the admitted "mental case". The supposition that this is an organic and not psychological probelm in no way minimizes the fact. I'm not name calling but repeating what you have posted here about psychiatrist sessions and personal issues. Again, you posted it and it doesn't seem to be germaine to the forum discussion. You blab and blather to great ends and the letter that is posted at your site when your submission was rejected by Nature just documents your elaborative style, (nice way for saying BORING!!)

LouMazza-not Johnson,Cooper,Massa,or anyone else.

wrcooper - 11:01pm Jul 24, 2002 EST (#3292 of 3327)

rshowalt 7/24/02 10:28pm

Baloney. You've really gone round the bend. Did you know that George Johnson lives in New Mexico? You can check that, boyo, easily enough. I live in Illinois, just south of you. You can check that, too. Lou lives in Texas, and I don't know where kalter lives. Somewhere above the clouds with a band of stalwart ETs, I think. Anyway, you've lost it, I'm afraid. I pity you. You really need psychological help. Ask your shrink--you indicated you have one, right?--if he or she thinks your theory about us and the CIA and Condaleeza Rice, etc., sounds plausible and sane. Better yet, ask your wife. Or ask other of your family members. Ask a neighbor. Ask two or three. But get some help, pal. Instead of checking into Bush's BMD plan, I'd check into your mental soundness. It's showing some serious wear and tear.

lchic - 01:16am Jul 25, 2002 EST (#3293 of 3327)

NAZI techniques in play by GeorgeJohnson (above) ... Showalter is real - check the Madison phone book, whereas Johnson's multiple monikers are just that humdrum characterisation.

lchic - 01:21am Jul 25, 2002 EST (#3294 of 3327)

USA Finance no controls over past decade-Z

"" ..... massive breakdown of the internal controls that are supposed to protect customers and promote confidence in the industry ""

-- as related by one of UncleSam's own - Herbert ..

-- who never confuses
your you're/you are

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/25/opinion/25HERB.html

lchic - 01:26am Jul 25, 2002 EST (#3295 of 3327)

Hunky Dory = M D ?

If finance isn't Hunky Dory?

If finance goes unaudied and unchecked in the private sector

Then how much checking happens in the SECRET SECTOR

Is best practice implemented

Not in bio-labs - where biologicalTerror materials can walk out the door - no security.

And in MISSILE DEFENCE - what goes on ?

The most lethal long lasting dangerous of substances used in Nuclear weapons --
What quality checks ?
How much public scrutiney from the general population ?
How transparent?

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