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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshowalt - 07:32am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3206 of 3327)

Eventually, when there is enough provokation, over long enough - actions are justified. I've been giving a little thought to suing George Johnson personally -- in our interchanges he's been engaged in a great deal that can quite reasonably be called fraud . There's a great deal of documentation in my files -- over years -- a great deal of it involving some very deceptive correspondence from Johnson under various pseudonyms. Much of it private, and set up so that it required, and got, a lot of hard effort from me. Are those pseudonyms "penetrable?" Under court usages, they could be and should be. I think that the NYT, which has reason to be proud of so much, has reason to be ashamed of George Johnson.

I believe that THE NEW YORK TIMES , lchic, almarst, gisterme, and I have reason to be proud of the things set out in MD2000. Things which have not been significantly disputed, though they've often been posted.

MD2000-2001 rshow55 5/4/02 10:39am

The golden rule works for both defense and offense.

As I said in MD3195:

Detail and the Golden Rule http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@244.zVafax4sarZ.8@.eece621/0 .... starts with discussion of some issues of national security law, and discussions between me and the CIA.

Issues that aren't closed yet, but that are getting nearer to closure.

And yes, based on evidence and conversation, I think the U. S. government cares what I say.

lchic - 08:20am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3207 of 3327)

Bush and Cheney - if they stand down would international confidence in American Markets rise ?

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The Observer - London

    an investigation of accounting changes introduced under Cheney.
    Most of Halliburton's government contracts were won by its construction subsidiary, Kellogg, Brown and Root - a company with British origins that was sold to the US parent in the 1970s.
    Documents uncovered by a Washington researcher, Knut Royce - formerly with the Centre for Public Integrity - and by The Observer show that government banks loaned or insured loans worth $1.5 billion during the five years that Cheney was chief executive, compared with only $100 million during the previous five years.

lchic - 08:29am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3208 of 3327)

$3.8 billion - Cheney ...

    The company under Cheney benefited from $3.8bn in government contracts or insured loans. Although Bill Clinton was in the White House, Capitol Hill - where the Appropriations Committee handles government contracts - was controlled by Cheney's Republican Party, to which Halliburton doubled its contributions to $1,212,000 after his arrival. (The Observer)

lchic - 08:31am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3209 of 3327)

Conflict of Interest

Conflict of interest - Cheney

Conflict of interest - Father Bush @ Carlyle

lchic - 08:37am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3210 of 3327)

IRRADIATION - (1997)

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/1997/dom/971215/health.nuking_your_b.html

PLANT ACCIDENTS

http://www.citizen.org/cmep/foodsafety/food_irrad/articles.cfm?ID=1383

lchic - 09:00am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3211 of 3327)

Iraq UK - 20,000-30,000 British troops

http://www.observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,759250,00.html

http://www.observer.co.uk/international/

lchic - 09:05am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3212 of 3327)

when the authorities are wasting their time interning the innocent, unclear and undetected dangers are free to plan their next spectacular

http://www.observer.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,759185,00.html

    Martin Bright, our Home Affairs editor, exposed the gambit by telling the judges that the 'Whitehall' and 'security' sources were often the unofficial press officers of MI5 and MI6. (You can read his statement on our website.)
    The PRs have set-up a wonderfully self-justifying system. They talk to journalists on condition of anonymity. Hacks go along with this which cheats the reader because there is no other way of getting information from the security and intelligence services. MI5 then uses the reports of its own briefings as independent corroboration of the need for internment.

lchic - 09:14am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3213 of 3327)

Charlie Chaplin, the world's greatest silent movie star and a twentieth-century icon, was denied a knighthood for nearly two decades because of American anger at his left-wing political sympathies and morality http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,759113,00.html http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~pringle/silent/chaplin/chaplin.html

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