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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 08:31am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3198 of 3339)

Conflict of Interest

Conflict of interest - Cheney

Conflict of interest - Father Bush @ Carlyle

lchic - 08:37am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3199 of 3339)

IRRADIATION - (1997)

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/1997/dom/971215/health.nuking_your_b.html

PLANT ACCIDENTS

http://www.citizen.org/cmep/foodsafety/food_irrad/articles.cfm?ID=1383

lchic - 09:00am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3200 of 3339)

Iraq UK - 20,000-30,000 British troops

http://www.observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,759250,00.html

http://www.observer.co.uk/international/

lchic - 09:05am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3201 of 3339)

when the authorities are wasting their time interning the innocent, unclear and undetected dangers are free to plan their next spectacular

http://www.observer.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,759185,00.html

    Martin Bright, our Home Affairs editor, exposed the gambit by telling the judges that the 'Whitehall' and 'security' sources were often the unofficial press officers of MI5 and MI6. (You can read his statement on our website.)
    The PRs have set-up a wonderfully self-justifying system. They talk to journalists on condition of anonymity. Hacks go along with this which cheats the reader because there is no other way of getting information from the security and intelligence services. MI5 then uses the reports of its own briefings as independent corroboration of the need for internment.

lchic - 09:14am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3202 of 3339)

Charlie Chaplin, the world's greatest silent movie star and a twentieth-century icon, was denied a knighthood for nearly two decades because of American anger at his left-wing political sympathies and morality http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,759113,00.html http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~pringle/silent/chaplin/chaplin.html

rshowalt - 09:41am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3203 of 3339)

MD3189 rshowalt 7/20/02 8:32pm includes this:

"This thread has been going on a long time. Gisterme , who is either Condoleezza Rice , or one of her team, or (word frequency analysis could verify this) an excellent imitation has contributed more than a thousand thoughtful postings.

"Has anybody found a fact or an argument that I've let stand on this thread that was wrong?

A good many of the facts were set out before March. Links cited in MD84 rshow55 3/2/02 11:52am deal with a lot of key facts and key discussion.

Issues of "how to check to closure" have been much discussed on this thread, and many of the issues are discussed in links set out in MD1076-1077 rshow55 4/4/02 1:20pm - - - issues that have been postponed, in part, because of security restrictions that have been of concern to me. Those things are well on the way to getting resolved -- and it may be possible to proceed with the proposals, so carefully discussed at length with gisterme - - and show how muddled and useless the US "missile defense" programs are.

I think MD1075 is interesting, as well.

rshowalt - 11:03am Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3204 of 3339)

MD3101 rshow55 7/16/02 9:11pm includes this, and some other good stuff.

"I'll be willing to issue an apology to Johnson and others -- if you contact lchic or me, and arrange a conference phone call (better yet, a video conference) that convincingly establishes your separate identities. The conversation should be recorded. It should occur after enough notice so that questions could be asked. It should be OK to post the recording on the internet.)"

Why not. Or maybe just a conference call, to start.

If I should check in other ways, how exactly? Ways that can't be faked are the ones that are needed.

. . . I'll be in and out -- but we should be able to get this sorted out. It would be so EASY to do it definitively. And of course, I could be wrong. If I am, I'll make a clear apology, for anything I actually turned out to be wrong about.

lchic - 12:02pm Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3205 of 3339)

Showalter says he's listed here (2002) http://www.cinet.net/~mhundt/fonebook.jpg

mazza9 - 01:41pm Jul 21, 2002 EST (#3206 of 3339)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

wrcooper:

Luigi Vampa was a thief who is saved by Edmund Dantes, (aka the Count of Monte Cristo). This particular piece of literature has always been one of my favorites. The byzantine plot of this classic novel reminds me of the story being spun by RShowalter, RShow55, and RShowalt.

I think RShow55 is really lchic, gisterme and almarst. I've connected the dots and determined that the truth will out when RShowalt conceeds his true identity. And who is that? The dots are really Dorothy of the ruby slippers. lchic is Toto and Scarecrow, Tinman and Cowardly lion all rolled into one. Who better to discuss missile defense?

BTW I have, on several occassions alluded to the manner in which I might be contacted since my name is listed at the NSS of North Texas website at www.nssnt.org.

Luigi (my baptismal name!)

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