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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshowalt - 09:19am Jul 19, 2002 EST (#3156 of 3327)

Most of the material here is copyrighted. Copyright holders include

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Date this disk was published: 17 July 2002


rshowalt - 09:24am Jul 19, 2002 EST (#3157 of 3327)

I'll try to get into contact with the copyright holders with significant stakes -- and try to work something out that makes sense -- giving them free use of the disk editions that use their material -- promising not to use the disk for commercial purposes without notifying them - - and perhaps some other things. I believe that this can be done in a way that is fair to all concerned, and that sets good precedents, rather than bad ones.

I'd be proud for the chance to get a copy of this archive disk into the hands of all major politicians in America (and some in Europe and Asia) if I could. That won't be possible. But some things might be.

I think the disk will be useful in a number of ways.

One way is in discussion of "collecting, connecting and correcting of dots".

rshowalt - 10:34am Jul 19, 2002 EST (#3158 of 3327)

There are a lot of reasons for me to want this material considered, and some are "ulterior motives" that I'm not ashamed of, and that go a long way, I believe, toward setting aside the argument that I'm being irrational doing the work I've done associated with this forum.

MD2770 rshow55 6/29/02 7:59am

MD2981-2986 000 especially MD2986 rshow55 7/10/02 3:58pm

I've been keeping promises I made to Bill Casey - promises I've wanted to keep for many reasons, with "mixed motivations" in many of the usual senses.

One motive is personal, and I feel it strongly.

I'm taking a chance to advance the culture, and think, with lchic's brilliant collaboration, I'm (we're) making some headway.

The idea of "connecting the dots" associates with a lot that is very practical, at a number of levels - including some other "old" ideas that can be made more useful with a little additional focusing. The ideas of "disciplined beauty" - "the golden rule" . . . and the idea that, when it matters enough, there is a moral obligation to tell the truth in the ways that matter for action.

lchic - 10:40am Jul 19, 2002 EST (#3159 of 3327)

Some are driven
Others chauffered
None want the world to 'end'

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zulphia 7/18/02 5:26pm

rshowalt - 12:07pm Jul 19, 2002 EST (#3160 of 3327)

The world could easily end, and it seems to me to be almost a wonder it hasn't already (in 1962, and at some other times, as well - for instance, the time described in this sermon http://www.wisc.edu/rshowalt/sermon.html ).

But if we figured out just a little bit more than we know, and if we were just a little bit more honest -- we could survive - and the world would be much better. If the following simple rhyme became a "nursery rhyme" - learned by 4 year olds and their parents -- the world would become a lot better. The rhyme has a lot to do with "connecting the dots" - and the fact that people, good as they are, aren't perfect.

Adults need secrets, lies and fictions
To live within their contradictions.

. . . . But when things go wrong
. . . . And knock about

. . . . Folks get together
. . . . And work it out.

. . . .

I've done a little searching, and I'm working to do a little summarizing. . . . back in less than an hour.

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