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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 06:36am Jul 18, 2002 EST (#3129 of 3339)

Showalter, there are
lots and lots and lots of dots ...
this thread is juggling dozens of dots ...
There's a
'Can't see wood for trees'
feel surrounding the dots ...

Who said
'I can see clearly now'
When will the rain be gone?

wanderer85us - 06:50am Jul 18, 2002 EST (#3130 of 3339)
Bush and Cheney - inside traders - bad apples that need to be tossed out.

Bush's motto:

Leave no defense contractor behind.

rshowalt - 07:17am Jul 18, 2002 EST (#3131 of 3339)

People ARE waking up, about some things. Had a bit of an extra work load. My main computer won't boot now -- almost gets up -- then restarts. A coincidence, no doubt. My only problem is, there have been many coincidences (and a while back, a lot of monitoring of my computer from a place very close to Bush's ranch, while he was there.) Sometimes I'm sensitive. Not only that, sometimes these things add to work-load.

If people just keep asking some of the sensible questions about business dealings that they are now asking - and look - - things could get a lot better.

It seems to me that at times like these, there's a patriotic duty to stay awake.

I made a comment, a while back, that I thought "Nazi-Bush" might reasonably become "one word" in the American language. If that happened, a lot of things would clarify - some good questions would be asked -- and some things that people are now too afraid to talk about would be talked about.

People ought to think what it means that Thomas White is still Secretary of the Army.

What would Eisenhower say? I think he'd be ashamed of the people who let that continue.

Some things need to be checked , and the national mood is becoming less cowed - more willing to permit that. High time.

Back to "dots" in a while. Lchic had a great posting of "dot studies" by a Japanese artist . . I'll go back and find it.

rshowalt - 10:38am Jul 18, 2002 EST (#3132 of 3339)

In the meantime, MD2866-2868 rshow55 7/4/02 12:06pm raise good questions, not only for the 4th of July, but for everyday.

lchic - 01:40pm Jul 18, 2002 EST (#3133 of 3339)

Ref: belgium white paper/USnazi & DotsJpn

http://www.prouty.org/brussell/nazi-1.html

lchic 7/16/02 6:36am

lchic - 01:53pm Jul 18, 2002 EST (#3134 of 3339)

Showalter you're less than prolific today .... not technical problems courtesy of Uncle Sam's Shadow - again?

How many taxFunded delinquents on his payroll?

Time Congress took these sectors in - and gave them a thorough check over - ousting activity that is petty and mischievious.

lchic - 01:54pm Jul 18, 2002 EST (#3135 of 3339)

Enron & military power provision NY link
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Army-Secretary-Enron.html Yet another 'BushMan' who's overpaid overvalued and 'over-there'!

The gross worth of key Bushmen is $________________
that
equates with the GNP of country X

lchic - 02:09pm Jul 18, 2002 EST (#3136 of 3339)

"" making schemes that defraud shareholders a crime and prison terms for wrong-doers of up to ten years
http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?story_id=1245080

"" declassified summary of a secret 140-page report to the full intelligence committee, reviewing the intelligence failures
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=315942
CIA is criticised for falling short on traditional human intelligence

as instanced on this thread - too much mis-direction, too much mischief, little vision and sense of priority with purposeful direction related to true National Interest

a Congress-Buddy tagged to some of the taxpayer funded employees here might reveal the 'tasks' undertaken - matched to a value scale

lchic - 02:30pm Jul 18, 2002 EST (#3137 of 3339)

Dead? binLaden http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/11/opinion/11TAHE.html

The second element that made Mr. bin Laden possible was easy money

The fifth element that made bin Ladenism possible was the West's, especially America's, perceived weakness if not actual cowardice. A joke going around militant Islamist circles until last year was that the only thing the Americans would do if attacked was to sue. That perception no longer exists. The Americans, supported by one of the largest coalitions in history, have shown they will use force against their enemies even if that means a long and difficult war.

Mr. bin Laden could survive and prosper only in a world in which these elements existed. That world is gone. Mr. bin Laden's ghost may linger on — perhaps because Washington and Islamabad will find it useful. President Bush's party has a crucial election to win and Pervez Musharraf is keen to keep Pakistan in the limelight as long as possible.

But the truth is that Osama bin Laden is dead.

Amir Taheri, editor of the Paris-based journal Politique Internationale, is a frequent contributor to the "Arab News" of Jidda, Saudi Arabia.

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