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- 07:42pm Jul 8, 2002 EST (#2916
Hitler Humour Politically correct or incorrect EU
- 09:04pm Jul 8, 2002 EST (#2917
shows a very effective poster which includes an interesting quote.
The United States government, especially the C.I.A., has studied
the ways of the Nazi's very carefully -- I was assigned to
study them and, if possible, adapt them, gracefully, to the needs of
the U.S. government.
The connections between the Nazis and the Bush family, from the
1930's, but after the war and at the C.I.A. as well, ought to be
Many of the patterns of enronation were quite well
understood by the Nazis - and by Casey.
Has anyone believably disputed the facts that Krugman
alludes to in Succeeding in Business http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/opinion/07KRUG.html
The idea that connection of US or British practice to Nazi
practice is "defamatory" is tiresome and dangerous. MUCH of the Cold
War was fought with a great deal of conscious borrowing from the
Casey was both very aware, and very concerned about this. He felt
Nazi usages were excellent for war fighting. But not for making a
stable peace, or a decent world. We talked about that a lot.
The worst things that Eisenhower warned against in his
Farewell Address have happened. We need to fix them. Getting
the capital markets cleaned up will be a step in that direction.
- 09:41pm Jul 8, 2002 EST (#2918
- 11:09pm Jul 8, 2002 EST (#2919
More Hitler humour
- politically correct incorrect USA
Reinhard Gehlen had been, up until the recent
capitulation, Adolph Hitler's chief intelligence officer against
the Soviet Union. His American captors had decked him out in one
of their uniforms to deceive the Russians, who were hunting him as
a war criminal. Now U.S. intelligence was going to deploy Gehlen
and his network of spies against the Russians. The Cold War was
This is a story of how key nazis, even as the Wehrmacht
was still on the offensive, anticipated military disaster and laid
plans to transplant nazism, intact but disguised, in havens in the
West. It is the story of how honorable men, and some not so
honorable, were so blinded by the Red menace that they fell into
lockstep with nazi designs. It is the story of the Odd Couple Plus
One: the mob, the CIA and fanatical exiles, each with its own
reason for gunning for .....
- 11:13pm Jul 8, 2002 EST (#2920
..... the German general took his entire apparatus, "unpurged
and without interruption, into the service of the American
superpower." There is no evidence that he ever renounced the Third
Reich's postwar plan, advanced by his own family's publishing house,
to colonize vast regions of Eastern Russia, create a huge famine for
40,000,000, and treat the remaining 50,000,000 "racially inferior
Slavs as slaves. Allen Dulles may not have invited such a man to his
club, but he did the next best thing: he funneled an aggregate of
$200 million in CIA funds to the Gehlen Organization as it became
known. Directing operations from a fortress-like nerve center in
Bavaria, Gehlen reactivated his network inside ...
....... When the nazis occupied Europe, the banking exchanges
between Britain and the U.S. on the one hand and Germany on the
other carried on as usual. In Trading With the Enemy, Charles Higham
documents the role of Standard Oil of New Jersey, owned by the Chase
Manhattan Bank, and I.G. Farben's Sterling Products with the Bank
for International Settlements. Standard Oil tankers plied the sea
lanes with fuel for the nazi war machine. Prior to the war McCloy
was legal counsel to Farben, the German chemical monopoly.
As an assistant secretary in the War Department during the war:
(1) McCloy blocked the executions of nazi war criminals; (2) forged
a pact with the Vichy Regime of pro-nazi Admiral Darlan; (3)
displaced Japanese-Americans in California to internment camps; (4)
refused to recommend the bombing of nazi concentration camps to
spare the inmates on grounds "the cost would be out of proportion to
any possible benefits;" and (5) refused Jewish refugees entry to the
When the curtain fell on the war, McCloy helped shield Klaus
Barbie, the "butcher of Lyons," from the French. Barbie and other
vicious dogs from Hitler's kennel were hidden out with the 370th
Counter Intelligence Corps at Obergamergau. One of their keepers was
Private Henry Kissinger, soon to enter Harvard as a McCloy protege.
In 1949 McCloy returned to Germany as American High Commissioner.
He commuted the death sentences of a number of nazi war criminals,
and gave early releases to others. One was Alfred Krupp, convicted
of using slave labor in his armaments factories. Another was
Hitler's financial genius, Dr. Hjalmar Schacht, who subsequently
went on the payroll of Aristotle Onassis.
In 1952 McCloy left a Germany that was prepared to re-arm to
return to his law practice. He became president of the Chase
Manhattan Bank, director of a dozen blue chip corporations, and
legal counsel to the "Seven Sisters" of American oil. During this
period he acquired a client, the Nobel oil firm, whose interests in
Czarist Russia had been managed by the father of George de
Mohrenschildt, Lee and Marina Oswald's "best friend" in Dallas.
Busy as he was McCloy found time to supervise construction of the
new Pentagon building. It was nicknamed “McCloy's Folly.”
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