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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 12:57pm Jun 20, 2002 EST (#2639
I'd like to repost some writings from this thread, prior to March
rshow55 - 11:29am Feb 13, 2002 EST (#11526 of 11552)
Defense is a matter of life and death. Justified trust is so
essential to long-term cooperation, and long term prosperity.
Everyone who is sensible, and not corrupt, has to care about right
answers. In the Enron case, a question question was and is
"did people get the securities they paid for in good faith, or
were they misled, in ways that were always dangerous, and turned out
to be disastrously wasteful?"
That's an important question. Because money is important.
Resources are limited. Trust is essential to the workings of our
markets and our cooperative enterprises.
We may also ask, of the government and of contractors --- "are
we getting the security that we're paying for in good
faith, or are we being misled in ways that are both wasteful and
Accounting may seem a "mundane" exercise. But on both money, and
matters of technical fact, it is essential in our world. One need
not ask for perfection. As Robert Bork said . . .
" The young are naturally romantic, and given
to moral absolutes that necessarily make the real world of
compromise, half-measures, and self-seeking appear corrupt."
...Chapter 1 .... Robert H. Bork, SLOUCHING
TOWARDS GOMORRAH: Modern Liberalism and American Decline
But all decent human beings are "romantic" to some extent, and
need to be. Not only the young. The "appearance" of corruption can
become real corruption, without the disciplining of fact, and
We all live in a real world of compromise, half-measures, and an
avoidance of too-harsh realities. People couldn't live any other way
- and it ought to be no surprise when muddles and messes happen. But
there need to be limits, and when things are important enough, and
we are paying attention, there is a great deal of agreement on what
is important. I was very interested in the following are excerpts
from a hearing yesterday of the Senate Commerce, Science and
Transportation Committee into the collapse of the Enron Corporation.
. . . 21 U. S. Senators spoke, and very interesting excerpts are set
out in http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/13/business/13TEXT.html
John McCain, Republican of Arizona;
Peter G. Fitzgerald, Republican of Illinois;
John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts;
John B. Breaux, Democrat of Louisiana;
Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon;
Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine;
Barbara Boxer, Democrat of California;
Jean Carnahan, Democrat of Missouri;
George F. Allen, Republican of Virginia; and
Ernest F. Hollings, Democrat of South Carolina.
Every one of these excerpts is worth reading, and a credit to its
authors, and to America.
I think these were important statements -- statements of
principles and common ground that really matter in America . Common
ground very widely held, and cherished, when people are speaking in
public, or talking to each other -- or acting where honor counts.
The reasons that accounting and openness matter in corporate
life also apply to government action, including our decisions on
Were still living with consequences of the Cold War that were not
properly accounted and resolved, and with new and vitally important
challenges. Our relations with NATO, that have been central to our
security interests for fifty years, are under great stress. Were in
battles of ideas, where the results matter. We have to re-establish
effective, proportionate, stable patterns of deterrance in a new
world, with new dangers. Our crediblility, as a nation, is vital,
and it cannot be taken for granted. Crazier Than Thou By THOMAS L.
- 12:58pm Jun 20, 2002 EST (#2640
We need some sensible accounting on issues of national and
international importance, that can bear examination when Americans,
and people of other nations, are paying attention.
Missile defense is a key example.
Some basic issues of functionality are an important place to
start. MD11502 rshow55 2/12/02 11:17am
gisterme - 07:20pm Feb 13, 2002 EST (#11528 of 11552)
lchic 2/13/02 2:56am
"...Gisterme - if you decide to begin embracing ... Robert
Things might move along with curtesy and speed :)"
Somehow the truth seems much more embraceable to me than Robert,
I'm in no hurry. Are you? Things seem to be moving along just
fine to me.
Gisterme , I think you were right, that things were
going well. I think we've made progress. I feel we may be
close to getting some things resolved that may make the world safer
- and move us in directions we both hope for, and can be proud of.
- 01:00pm Jun 20, 2002 EST (#2641
To repeat - I think that my concerns, and the reasonable concerns
of the other parties in interest could be well served if the U.S.
government agreed to do what Bill Casey promised me and the AEA
investors, or something equivalent in the ways that matter. I
personally think that's true, whether the government is willing to
admit the truth of my story or not. If that were discussed, and not
a workable resolution -- perhaps discussions would lead to a
workable resolution. One consistent with the terms dictated to me by
CIA last week, and in the national interest otherwise.
. . . .
If this was OK, at least as a basis of discussion - I should,
after a few phone calls to people around the Madison area, be ready
to talk to people involved in the Crusader matter.
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