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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 07:48pm Jun 11, 2002 EST (#2484
THE $$$$$ LINE - Jackpot Afghanistan - http://www.blueprint-magazine.de/oil/oil.html
- 07:52pm Jun 11, 2002 EST (#2485
Dick Cheney, who spent much of the last decade scheming with
his fellow oil barons to get a pipeline from the virgin fields of
the Caspian Sea -- where $4 trillion in profits are waiting for them
-- through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Indian Ocean. Cheney's
business interests in oil and arms, temporarily divested while he
helps direct American policy in energy and defense, rival those of
the Bushes and bin Ladens. Or as the Chicago Tribune noted last
year: 'War is big business, and Dick Cheney is right in the middle
of it.'" - http://www.bushwatch.net/oil.htm
- 07:59pm Jun 11, 2002 EST (#2486
"One of the most fascinating pipeline proposals is advocated
by Unocal. In conjunction with the government of Turkmenistan and a
Saudi Arabian oil company, Delta Oil, Unocal is proposing to build a
pipeline from Charjou, Turkmenistan, through Afghanistan to Karachi,
Pakistan." - http://depts.washington.edu/reecas/newsletter/spring97/lumpkin.htm
- 10:10pm Jun 11, 2002 EST (#2487
I see that the forum topic dosen't prevent your blah blah!
lchic and Robert have been blocked. Who knows, maybe you'll be
sent to the corner with a dunce cap again.
- 10:46pm Jun 11, 2002 EST (#2488
THE EMPIRE ISN'T IN AFGHANISTAN FOR THE OIL! - http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/oil-1.htm
- 10:49pm Jun 11, 2002 EST (#2489
Hello! Hello! Hello!
Is anyone there? Is anyone there? Is anyone there?
Is that an echo echo echo? (MAZZA;)
... echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo ...;)
- 05:41am Jun 12, 2002 EST (#2490
""" ... The more sophisticated of President Vladimir Putin's
advisers seem now to accept the need for most of the Russian troops
in Chechnya to be withdrawn, leaving local police officers to take
more responsibility for security in the republic. But there are
strong signs that Russian commanders from the defence and interior
ministries are undermining that proposal; and there is a nasty
suspicion that their motives are financial. War in the Caucasus
provides ample opportunity for greedy soldiers to make money through
oil and drug deals, as well as extortion from local people desperate
to pay ransom to secure the freedom of loved ones.
- 07:09am Jun 12, 2002 EST (#2491
""" ... Umarov and hundreds of thousands of other Krasnodar
residents displaced by the breakup of the Soviet empire a decade ago
face the threat of deportation, even if they have nowhere else to
go. Like Umarov, most of them are dark-skinned non-Russians.
"It's the 21st century, and they want to deport people on the
basis of ethnicity," said Sarvar Tedorov, leader of a Turkish human
rights group here. "They are persecuting us so we will be forced to
The town of Varenikovskaya, home to about 500 Turks among a
population of 16,000, has become an unhappy flash point in the
increasingly acute ethnic tensions erupting around Russia ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34652-2002Jun11.html
- 07:37am Jun 12, 2002 EST (#2492
- 02:11pm Jun 12, 2002 EST (#2493
Back from a reunion at Cornell University, and some interesting
meetings. Tiring for me, but also in some ways VERY satisfying. Some
things seem hopeful to me - very hopeful - but it is a time of
changes, and a lot of need for care. Almarst, I'm very glad
to see you back.
I'm personally glad that interdiction is being seriously
considered - it can work, and missiles really can't. I'd be glad for
a chance to say a few things to responsible folks about interdiction
- and connected things needed to keep things stable if interdiction
has to happen -- might even be possible to do that on a face-to-face
basis - seems to me.
I very much LIKED the WEEK IN REVIEW section this Sunday. And I
ran across some folks aroun Ithaca who seemed aware of this thread.
For all the anger and fear and challenges, it seems to me a good
time to repost these:
5/4/02 10:35am ... MD2000 rshow55
Seems a good time to be careful, hopeful, and fearful enough so
we arrange things well, rather than badly. I deeply appreciate the
chance to post on this thread. Back in a while.
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