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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 01:20pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2279 of 2297)

Media : GU talk thread

lchic - 01:26pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2280 of 2297)

Showalter asks

    " I do not personally believe that there is a single thing that I have ever written on this thread, or any guardian thread, that ought to be considered classified or restricted in any way.
    "Perhaps someone disagrees.
    " If so, I believe, they should say so now.
~~~ or forever hold their tongue ~~~
had a familiar ring

lchic - 01:30pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2281 of 2297)

Powell - GU thread

rshow55 - 01:34pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2282 of 2297) Delete Message

This is a hopeful time. If the world press, and the US press, did their job - and shamed US politicians into doing THEIR job -- we could live in a much more decent, safer, more beautiful world. The tools are at hand.

lchic - 01:44pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2283 of 2297)

As i've said before ...
CONGRESS is the People's House
Time it's role v President's role
Were re-defined

The people PAY - they should know what's going on - and Government should be most fully accountable!

Statues re Conflict of Interest must be made to apply. For it's the INTERESTS of the people that matter - not the FirstFamily.

lchic - 03:33pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2284 of 2297)

lchic - 03:36pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2285 of 2297)

Palast - Enron - ref

    .. Gregory Palast having delved into his not yet published book titled "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" and subtitled "An Investigative Reporter Exposes the Truth about Globalization, Corporate Cons, and High Finance Fraudsters."

rshow55 - 05:44pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2286 of 2297) Delete Message

Tom Daschle , the Senate Majority Leader , pledged to try for workable patterns of discourse in A New Deal for a New Senate

" I believe the only way forward is to embrace a spirit of principled compromise. What this requires is open debate, because it is only through debate that we can find new areas of agreement.

" Even in an increasingly partisan political environment, agreement is possible.

I don't know if this thread has helped, but people working here have tried to be constructive. MD2000 rshow55 5/4/02 10:39am

MD2190 rshow55 5/13/02 2:24pm includes this:

Russia's contact with NATO is getting closer in form. It will be closer in substance as well, to the extent that Russia, and other nations in NATO - (not just the United States) can communicate and check things that actually matter - and a great deal matters. That need for checking goes against established patterns - some shown, in a very clear way in the NUNN-WOLFOWITZ TASK FORCE REPORT: INDUSTRY "BEST PRACTICES" REGARDING EXPORT COMPLIANCE PROGRAMS July 25, 2000 ... . This is a treatise on restricting conversation. In current situations, to make the cold war over in reality, we have to do just the opposite. We have to have enough conversation, and enough real checking, for reasonable trust to be justified. And enough so that real cooperation can occur.

MD2213-2214 rshow55 5/14/02 5:40pm

MD2228 rshow55 5/15/02 9:34am ... MD2229 rshow55 5/15/02 9:36am

If Russia can make as much progress in integrating with Europe and the rest of the world next year, as it did this year - that would be wonderful -- for to do so, she'd have to catalyze, insist on, patterns that would make the entire world much safer - and a more hopeful place.

Problems of peace are more important than detailed discussion of the US "missile defense" boondoggle - and Putin understands that. Even so, lies are dangerous, and we live in a world more dangerous than it has to be.

Eisenhower became very concerned about patterns he'd seen, and warned against the military-industrial(political) complex in his FAREWELL ADDRESS of January 17, 1961

Everything Eisenhower was worried about has happened. People with power are going to have to ask that some key things be checked. It matters because the United States, intentionally or not, is setting up situations that lead to fighting and death, rather than peace and stability - - and it is happeneing again and again.

A very good way to handle many of these issues would be to discuss missile defense according to the patterns set out in MD1896-1899 rshow55 4/30/02 10:10am

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