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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 01:20pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2279
Media : GU talk thread
- 01:26pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2280
" I do not personally believe that there is a single thing
that I have ever written on this thread, or any guardian thread,
that ought to be considered classified or restricted in any way.
~~~ or forever hold their tongue ~~~
"Perhaps someone disagrees.
" If so, I believe, they
should say so now.
had a familiar ring
- 01:30pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2281
Powell - GU thread
- 01:34pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2282
This is a hopeful time. If the world press, and the US
press, did their job - and shamed US politicians into doing THEIR
job -- we could live in a much more decent, safer, more beautiful
world. The tools are at hand.
- 01:44pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2283
As i've said before ...
CONGRESS is the People's House
Time if FUNCTIONED!
Time it's role v President's role
The people PAY - they should know what's going on - and
Government should be most fully accountable!
Statues re Conflict of Interest must be made to apply. For
it's the INTERESTS of the people that matter - not the FirstFamily.
- 03:33pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2284
- 03:36pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2285
Palast - Enron - ref
.. Gregory Palast having delved into his not yet published
book titled "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" and
subtitled "An Investigative Reporter Exposes the Truth about
Globalization, Corporate Cons, and High Finance Fraudsters."
- 05:44pm May 18, 2002 EST (#2286
Tom Daschle , the Senate Majority Leader , pledged to try
for workable patterns of discourse in A New Deal for a New
" I believe the only way forward is to embrace a
spirit of principled compromise. What this requires is open
debate, because it is only through debate that we can find new
areas of agreement.
" Even in an increasingly partisan political
environment, agreement is possible.
I don't know if this thread has helped, but people working here
have tried to be constructive. MD2000 rshow55
5/13/02 2:24pm includes this:
Russia's contact with NATO is getting closer in
form. It will be closer in substance as well, to the extent that
Russia, and other nations in NATO - (not just the United States)
can communicate and check things that actually matter - and a
great deal matters. That need for checking goes against
established patterns - some shown, in a very clear way in the
NUNN-WOLFOWITZ TASK FORCE REPORT: INDUSTRY "BEST PRACTICES"
REGARDING EXPORT COMPLIANCE PROGRAMS July 25, 2000 ... http://188.8.131.52/library/pdf/nunnwolfowitz.pdf
. This is a treatise on restricting conversation. In current
situations, to make the cold war over in reality, we have to do
just the opposite. We have to have enough conversation, and enough
real checking, for reasonable trust to be justified. And enough so
that real cooperation can occur.
5/15/02 9:34am ... MD2229 rshow55
If Russia can make as much progress in integrating with Europe
and the rest of the world next year, as it did this year - that
would be wonderful -- for to do so, she'd have to catalyze, insist
on, patterns that would make the entire world much safer - and a
more hopeful place.
Problems of peace are more important than detailed discussion of
the US "missile defense" boondoggle - and Putin understands that.
Even so, lies are dangerous, and we live in a world more dangerous
than it has to be.
Eisenhower became very concerned about patterns he'd seen, and
warned against the military-industrial(political) complex in his
FAREWELL ADDRESS of January 17, 1961 http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm
Everything Eisenhower was worried about has happened. People with
power are going to have to ask that some key things be checked. It
matters because the United States, intentionally or not, is setting
up situations that lead to fighting and death, rather than peace and
stability - - and it is happeneing again and again.
A very good way to handle many of these issues would be to
discuss missile defense according to the patterns set out in
Chain Breakers http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/618
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