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- 09:26am May 8, 2002 EST (#2082
Australia rejects draft of Terrorism Legislation - too much power
in the hands of ONE Attorney General
US military school accused of producing terrorists The
wholeheartedness of the Bush administration's anti-terrorism
credentials are being questioned as it continues to support a
contentious military school on US soil. The Latin-American training
school at Georgia's Fort Benning numbers some of South America's
most notorious dictators among its old boys, not to mention a legion
of torturers and killers. So how can its existence be justified
against the background of the war on global terrorism?
- 09:51am May 8, 2002 EST (#2083
Detention Centers so degrade people that they practise self-harm.
Australian Medical professionals want 'prison' camps for refugees
closed down. The psychological trauma is long-term
Australia's doctors are expressing growing concern about the
plight of children in detention centres. Almost every independent
medical body is now calling on the Howard Government to remove
children and their families from detention centres. http://www.abc.net.au/news/indepth/featureitems/s436874.htm
Back to CAMP X-RAY ... people who have not been charged,
escorted to toilets in chains, no social communication, ...... is
America creating psychological time bombs that may later 'explode'?
'what goes around comes around'
- 10:04am May 8, 2002 EST (#2084
Something I was hoping to communicate two years ago, and have
tried to communicate since. If you put people into situations where
they have NO way to be human, in their own terms -- if you threaten
them that much - they may shrivel - Nazis, and people since, have
known how to destroy people. But it is also true that they may fight
to the death -- both as individuals and as groups.
The Israelis are doing some things very wrong - not that
retaliation and deterrance aren't important - but they need to be
calibrated so that they are consistent with the humanity of people
who are involved - - because that is the only way fights can ever
I'm about to take a shot at getting my security situation
clarified -- attempting to talk to a human being, with some
connections -- face to face.
We'll see what happens. Wish me luck.
- 10:14am May 8, 2002 EST (#2085
Time to get out of that situation where you have had 'no way
to be human in your own terms' ?
Raises the point re the 1% of Americans who are, or have at
some time, worked for the good of their country. How many others
are also left in 'limbo' situations with regard to their
- 10:16am May 8, 2002 EST (#2086
GU MD thread http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?50@@.eea2fd2/0
- 11:07am May 8, 2002 EST (#2087
I wish the best for that meeting ! It is about time that you get
- 02:17pm May 8, 2002 EST (#2088
Once again, those miserable, no good Israelis are bleeding all
over those poor downtrodden Palestinains. Have they no couth?
BIG SARCASM ALERT!!!
Lchic: Killed any babies lately? Burned any synagogues?
If only we succumbed to the terrorist's logic,(BIG OXYMORON), the
world would be IN RUINS!
Makes you wonder whether they wouldn't be better off in IRAQ Or
Saudi Arabia, (Or Hell!).
LouMazza and am I ticked!
- 03:18pm May 8, 2002 EST (#2089
Civilized: A failed suicide bombing and the Israelis take the
bomber to the hospital.
Uncivilized, a disguised Palestinain kills a 5 year old Jew.
Hey lchic! Killed any 5 year olds in the name of World Peace
- 03:54pm May 8, 2002 EST (#2090
I have a solution to the pal terror problem.....give them the
real weapons (say, stingers and anti-tank missiles and maybe heavy
artillery) and let them fight it out with IDF. That way, instead of
walking into a room to kill the jews, they can bomb them from 50
miles away (like IDF does) and that 5 year old would have been a
"collateral damage" unintentionally killed (wink, wink to IDF)in
Pals' war against illegal occupation instead of the victims of
terrorism. Now then we will have a clean, good old days kinda
warfare and you wouldn't have a heart attack everytime CNN pops up.
- 04:00pm May 8, 2002 EST (#2091
Btw, Lou, when are you enlisting in IDF? I saw Sharon on CNN
yesterday and he smiled way too much for my comfort while
interviewing in the context of the latest bombing which is supposed
to have grieved him a lot.....something tells me that he was
thanking those Hamas goons for screwing up the latest Arab stragegy
to politically hand-cuff Israel. So it is time to IDF rock &
roll again and you are needed by Sharon... Fast !
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