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- 07:41am May 8, 2002 EST (#2079
Friedman speaks today of issues that are more than just
"emotional" of course -- but emotions matter, as well, and ought to
be carefully remembered when they involve the emotions involved in
murder and repression.
The War on What? by THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/08/opinion/08FRIE.html
When Friedman speaks of the Indonesian army "running amok" -- it
is important to know what he's referring to.
3/2/02 8:31am includes this:
"In 1975, the government of Indonesia invaded and annexed East
Timor, an independent and sovereign nation-state, and killed
approximately 200,000 of its inhabitants—roughly one-third of its
population (the largest proportional genocide since the Holocaust).
Kissinger and President Ford gave approval for the invasion to
Indonesia's dictator, General Suharto, who received economic and
military aid from the United States. This approval, argues Hitchens,
makes Kissinger complicit in crimes against humanity.
. East Timor (from Time.com ) http://www.time.com/time/daily/newsfiles/timor/
. Dossier: A relatively painless primer on the
history of the conflict in East Timor (from Mother Jones ) http://www.motherjones.com/east_timor/dossier/
. East Timor: Questions & Answers (from Z
. We helped them descend into hell (from the
. East Timor: Long Road Ahead (from the BBC) http://news6.thdo.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_646000/646393.stm
On 09:57am Jul 30, 2001 lunarchick commented
"The worry re the Indonesian Army is that they set
up milita who in turn bully, beat, and kill the local population.
This is happening now on the Islands with mineral resources. In
West Papua the technique is to move Indonesians onto the Island -
who inturn outnumber the original inhabitants - whose land was
stolen. The wealth is being drained to the East Javanese. Suharto
(and family) still have vast holdings - with money - to pay
private armies to do their dirty work. I doubt if Megawatti will
be a human rights champion .... more likely to put the Army in
charge of the country and let it do what it wants.
"The Indonesian Army has people who were trained
in Oz - perhaps they should include info re moral education and
ethics - and hope it flows north.
Are we giving "guidance" in just the opposite direction? Friedman
suggests we may be.
We need to set good examples, not bad ones. With security usages
as they stand - we often do quite the opposite. On "missile defense"
an enormous boondoggle is being continued, beyond reason - exactly
because of the kinds of cancerous secrecy Moynihan treats in
In the United States, much too often, people are afraid to look
at, or even discuss, either factual truths that ought to be
discussable - or moral decisions that ought to be clearly, publicly
discussable. It took some courage, I'm sure, for Friedman to write
as he did today.
- 08:02am May 8, 2002 EST (#2080
More Enron Mischief http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/08/opinion/_08WED2.html
"California says the documents provide reason for
Washington to keep those caps in place. Indeed they do. The
documents should also inspire investigators inquiring into Enron's
behavior to keep pressing until they completely understand exactly
what Enron was up to, and who precisely was responsible for the
colorfully named strategies that burdened the state's taxpayers
and its economy.
Similar tactics to the Enron manipulation are much easier
under cover of security, and the culture of the military-industrial
What a wonderful thing it would be if it were possible to look at
missile defense, and a good deal else in the military budget, in a
similar spirit. It would be wonderful if it were possible to
" inspire investigators inquiring into the
government's behavior to keep pressing until they
completely understand exactly what the government was up
to, and who precisely was responsible for the colorfully named (or
totally hidden) strategies that burdened the country's
taxpayers and its economy."
- 09:21am May 8, 2002 EST (#2081
Showalter - posted Kristof's phrase
.... should think in new directions, like extending
trade or, especially, trying to confront feelings of
humiliation that may well be more explosive than poverty or
illiteracy " Coming round to a way of thinking we have on
the thread (above). Looking at the NEEDS of people as shown in the
Maslow heirachy, trade as in commerce, as in jobs, as in a means of
provision of continuity and security - is basic to stability.
One notes that Bush is said to 'not have a clear policy' ... I
perceive a welcome shift in his thinking from being 100% pro Israel
towards a more balanced and even handed stance. His policy might
include a transfer of publically raised dollars currently going to
Israel (to be used in vandalism) towards the people with real needs
- Palestinians. Israel has had a fantastic deal from the USA - time
it relied on private donations only.
The whole area of both Palestine and Israel should be built-up as
a functioning economic zone - not just an Israeli zone.
Sharon has run away from Washington to Israel saying he is
determined to once again thrash Palestine ... rather than
work for peace. When will he realise that he won't beat a people
into 'submission' ... they are already 5th Class citizens in their
own lifetime - how much lower are they expected to sink?
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