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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 03:35pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2035
I think the world could be much better, if we used things
we now almost know about the internet, to assist negotiations where
details matter a great deal, and where there are many different
levels of focus that need to be accomodated.
Used examples concerning the negotiations in the Middle East -
that I think make specific sense, but link to general, wider uses,
in MD2008 rshow55
When a new technology is implemented, it is usually the case that
there are unforseen problems, so that it is less useful than hoped.
Friedman's Lexus and the Olive Tree has been subject to that
criticism. But very often, when these problems are identified, they
can be solved.
Russia, if it wished to be, would be in a strategic position to
help solve some of the most important of these problems. Many of the
concerns almarst has expressed on this thread could be better
adressed if she did so - and if other nation-states did so.
Many resources are coming together that could provide "building
blocks" for this http://dpls.dacc.wisc.edu/apdu/forgn_index.html
. . . they have to be fit to the specific needs of the specific and
real human beings who need to use them.
They can be -- there's an enormous amount of expertise around.
We can make the world a more effective, humane, comfortable
global village - with plenty of room for diversity - but with
agreement when it is worth getting.
- 03:54pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2036
A Rising Tide of Defense Dollars http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/05/opinion/05SUN1.html
If the past is any guide, billions of dollars will
be wasted and misspent as Washington spends close to a trillion
dollars on new weapons systems over the next decade.
I'd say much more than half of that money will be wasted -- and
the world impoverished in other ways. Against that backdrop, does
the "missile defense" boondoggle even matter so much? -- It isn't as
if the technology is going to be effective -- if waste on MD were
eliminated, would the money just fund other waste?
MD is a huge problem. But there's a larger, more general problem.
" When large news organizations such as The New
York Times cannot solve problems by covering the facts about
them -- why don't the solutions happen, when they often seem very
The pattern of an internet based "engineer's court" much
discussed on this thread would go a long way toward perfecting
techniques to answer and adress that larger, more general problem.
- 04:09pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2037
.... unexpected production problems have defeated delivery
Some of these delays have gone on for fifty years
One wonders if there'll be a follow-up article regarding
BUSHtheFATHER and CONFLICTofINTEREST
- 04:20pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2038
When I was just a kid, I spent some time at Johns Hopkins APL,
and looked at a "scramjet" (hypersonic ramjet) program that had
totally hopeless mixing problems -- that was in the early
1970's and the scramjet was still "under development" last year
(though I haven't checked if any of that development was at
"Missile Defense" has been an ongoing mess since Eisenhower's
Because these programs are heavily classified - the rationality
is MUCH less than it could be - and the potential for corruption is
huge - - including legal but highly questionable
stock-picking and "merchant banking" which now funds Bush Sr at
- 04:23pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2039
"" "I loved the simplicity of physics, the feeling that I could
understand almost everything about a problem." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/30/science/physical/30CONV.html
- 04:27pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2040
The local Uni here (UQ) had a scramjet project - a launch was
unsucessful .... the project was scaled back to 0+ ... and people
You were right Showalter - i remember asking you about it :)
NASA also had a project to be launched around that time - their
launch for some reason didn't go ahead ..... bet it's not been
abandoned ... bet the dollars are still rolling through!
- 04:30pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2041
Is Physics that 'simple' or is it only 'simple' when the unknown
becomes the known.
Discovery is still in progress ?
Especially as 'truth' seems subject to change.
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