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- 02:31pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2020
......... bountiful as in any other region can never reach their
full potential under repressive regimes. The last century has been
so stagnant for the region not because of America, but
because authoritarian governments strike bargains with religious
leaders who often indulge in antimodernist religious education that
This is one of his many trips to Indonesia and he is excited at
watching the largest Muslim country in the world reform its
institutions and reach out to the world. The ideas of religious
freedom, individual liberty and responsibility are not incompatible
with Islam but he is full of regret that much of the Muslim world
has turned its back on the classical liberal tradition practiced by
Muslim societies in the past.
He is quick to remind that the Muslim world reached the zenith of
its influence in the Middle Ages when it preserved the best of
classical Greek and Roman teachings and inspired breakthroughs in
mathematics, science, medicine and philosophy. That is also when
Islam was at its most open to the world when it enriched and was
enriched by the Christian, Greek and Jewish communities in its midst
and when it was actively trading with all corners of the world.
Apart from dreaming of making globalization work what preoccupies
him is also the future of US-Muslim relations. He is most interested
in finding out what the reaction of a cross section of Indonesians
is to September 11 and their opinion of America. During his travels
he has found an iron wall of misunderstanding between America and
the Muslim world.
"Just go anywhere Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and you'll hit
your head against this wall," he says adding that it has taken many
hands to build this wall, blaming American officials for failing to
speak out against Israeli settlements in the occupied territories
and depriving Palestinians of any potential homeland.
America's Muslim allies also helped to erect this wall. Their
leaders have encouraged the press to print the worst lies about
America as easy excuses for why they never have to look at
And for lending a ear to everyone Friedman has built up quite
a following of foes as well as friends, making his wife and two
daughters proud of the three times Pulitzer Prize winner but also
worried about his constant wanderings around the world. "" [ my
italic emphasis ]
- 02:39pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2021
Listening to the Future? by THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/05/opinion/05FRIE.html
is a fine piece by Friedman, and http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailfeatures.asp?fileid=20020505.B01
is impressive, and a sign of hope.
America tells lies to itself and others on occasion, and
sometimes big ones. They mess a lot up, and cause plenty of horror.
All the same, if you actually "count delusions" -- the US is
probably one of the cleaner, more clear nations around. At least
about the things it does well (and there are many). That is, the
incidence of delusion is less here than many other places --
high as it is.
3/17/02 7:45pm includes this.
"When I read DeMause, I thought this --- if what
he says is true, the catalepsy of some countries and cultures - -
including Islamic cultures - their inability to show the economic
growth one would expect, may be in large part due to having such a
huge framework of lies and brutal usages, that there is just not
the common ground, and respect for truth, that the complex
cooperation of modern economic life takes."
If we found the resources to tell the truth -- the whole
truth, on some issues where we were criticised -- and asked
for the same from the Islamic world -- a lot might sort out - in
ways of interest to all.
The world could be MUCH more beautiful - from our point of view,
and from the point of view of many different cultures, all over the
world - if we solved some technical problems about getting
facts to closure -- and if we found ways, more often, to get people
to "collect the dots" and "connect the dots" so that they agreed on
enough so that they could cooperate when they had to - - and solve
problems peacefully and productively more often. MD671-672 rshow55
Lately, I've been feeling hopeful that we might find those ways.
- 02:42pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2022
- 02:46pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2023
When the East Timor Massacres-Vandalism-Trashings happened
various faces of Indonesia were on show - inter-related with the
misuse of power, greed and corruption.
- 02:48pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2024
Thanks for http://dpls.dacc.wisc.edu/apdu/forgn_index.html
- 02:51pm May 5, 2002 EST (#2025
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