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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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cantabb - 06:12pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17597 of 17614)

rshow55 - 04:29pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17588 of 17595)

If nobody can actually check anything that actually matters - that undermines the basic charter - the basic trust - that sustain The New York Times .

I know this much: YOU do not “check” facts, and you don’t know much about relevance, so relevant facts are out of the question. In view of this, it’s not difficult to imagine how little “basic trust” you can expect from others.

You'd do much better on the side of getting right answers - than on the side of resisting the mechanisms necessary to getting them.

What’s “right” answer to these questions: What is it that you have been working on here for 3+ years, and what have you achieved vs your claims ? Why have you been “resisting” answering this ?

Not only that, I'm going to do my best to insist - within my small power - for a lot of reasons.

Go ahead. Good luck !

rshow55 - 04:42pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17589 of 17595)

Though I'm willing to be "corrupted" , within limits.

Really ?

Just a guess. By a reasonable corporate accounting, New York Times Company has had direct and opportunity costs connected with this thread of about half a million dollars. For a company that isn't especially flush with cash or management time.

Suppose so, just for the argument.

That would easily get NYT Company 10% of the solar energy deal - which would be enough to actually make it work - assuming, as I do, that the technical barriers are small - but the negotiation barriers large.

So, you are interested in some funds from NYT for “solar energy deal” ?

NOT for MD – on which you claim you’ve been working so hard on for 3+ years ?

I knew there had to be some financial interest ! And, IS this what you have been demanding from NYT ?

rshow55 - 04:47pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17590 of 17595)

With somebody like Howell Raines managing the negotiating side - that could easily mature into an income stream in excess of 1 billion $/year. More than your current profit. And a feather in the cap of New York Times on the Web.

The deal could be set up at no marginal cost to NYT - from where we are - except that it would require you to be honest - and do some clear (and fully defensible) exception handling.

Raines doesn’t work/live there anymore ! Doubt if they’d have anything to do with him now.

And if the deal, which would be known to be risky financially - went down - as risky deals often do - -there need be no dishonor or cash loss to the TIMES . Just a thought . Not that I need NYT to get involved. But I need in writing a framework that permits me to function.

If you don’t “need NYT to get involved” WHY the heck are you demanding anything from NYT ?

It's o-v-e-r !! Thanks to your and lchic's efforts !

bluestar23 - 06:32pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17598 of 17614)

What incredible Showalter confusion, mis-statements about reality, wild stories of joining H. Raines in billion-dollar projects....really, Showalter is just so delusional, paranoid...

bluestar23 - 06:35pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17599 of 17614)

rshow55:

" New York Times Company has had direct and opportunity costs connected with this thread of about half a million dollars."

Isn't this the most ridiculous example of Showalter's total lack of reality...this thread costs almost nothing in itself...to say it costs NYT, $500,000 to run this discussion is so wildly crazy....

cantabb - 06:45pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17600 of 17614)

BlueS:

Why can't he take his proposal on "Solar Energy" and submit it to an appropriate federal/private agency for funding ? Like most other scientists/researchers do it routinely !

Remember he wants $$$ for "Solar Energy" through this thread on Missile Defense, on which he was supposedly working so hard for 3+ years.

What did he think he was working on ? And saving thousands of lives on the side.

Or, submit one to NYT and see if they can or are interested in funding it -- instead of "demanding" FUNDS from them, with threats and imposing ridiculous conditions.

May be he's afraid he'd be laughed out !

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