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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 03:56pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17578 of 17587)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

The instant anybody sues anybody, for score - the key information about cast of characters becomes very hard to suppress.

rshow55 - 03:58pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17579 of 17587)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I personally think that the world would be better off - and NYT would be better off - if names were associated validly with the monikers. But I'm not necessarily insisting on that. If people admitted what they'd done - we could convert this mess into a win-win situation.

But that takes honest accounting. Something you people seem hell bent on avoiding.

rshow55 - 03:59pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17580 of 17587)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I also think that if that happended - we could all make money - and do it in a way that "the average reader of The New York Times" and the average human on the planet would be likely to approve of.

rshow55 - 04:05pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17581 of 17587)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Repeat - practically always - win-win situations that are stabilizable require honest accounting.

Suppress that - and you can't do much better than Hobbes described in interactions between groups that are significantly different.

So this matters.

rshow55 - 04:07pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17582 of 17587)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I've been working plenty hard - and if I can be so lucky now as to corner you guys and beat the daylights out of you till you learn it - then I'll try to do so.

Grace would be nicer. But getting honest accounting, so solutions of disciplined beauty are definable and stabilizable has been my key teaching objective. And I've worked hard. Maybe not as eloquently as somebody could have. But I've tried.

And I care enough to fight about this.

rshow55 - 04:08pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17583 of 17587)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

It seems to me that the less you guys like me - the better I might be at Wizard's Chess .

This thread hasn't happened by accident.

All in all, I'm proud of it.

jorian319 - 04:16pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17584 of 17587)

Robert, your "point" is dismissed. And Here's why:

Any value that this thread has accrued to you, and any loss you might suffer by its disappearance, is directly resultant from the effort you elected to invest in it. Nobody twisted you arm to particpate. (If Eisenhower or Casey coerced you into participation, your beef is with them, not NYT. Nobody else is responsible for the disposition of whatever value this thread may have to you.

Further, you have the option to preserve part and/or parcel of this thread, as do we all. If you certify to a third party that the version of it that you present is complete and unaltered, that third party will have no recourse to check up on that certification. You'll just have to live with yourself. As do we all.

I see no compelling reason whatsoever for NYT to have anything to do with you and your concerns - they started this forum, they're stopping it and that's that. They've been gracious enough to give you adequate notice to archive what you want of it, and they didn't even have to do that much. Take it as a victory, and quit pressing for what you don't deserve!

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