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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 03:38pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17573 of 17583)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Cantabb , I understand perfectly well that I have to be responsible.

And I'm not running away from responsibility.

Won't let you do so, either - unless we have an accomodation that actually makes operational and moral sense to me.

jorian319 - 03:47pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17574 of 17583)

Jorian , that's not true - and you have to know it.

Ok Robert, 'splain it to me like I'm three. AFAICS, Kate siad this thread is going away. As in "will no longer be accessible". I assume that means by you, by me, and by your hired gun. What's wrong with this picture?

I am an honorable person, and do not appreciate gratuitious insinuations about my character, Robert. If you can support your contention above, please do so asap.

cantabb - 03:52pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17575 of 17583)

rshow55 - 03:33pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17570 of 17572)

I can't afford to have it [this thread] buried.

First, it's NOT yours; second, ready or not, it's going to be buried.

You may make a million CD copies of your "corpus" -- YOU may include EVERYTHING till Nov 14 or select-out posts, that's your problem.

BUT, if on your distributed "Corpus" CD, you intentionally misrepresent and malign ANY poster (monikered or NOT) or do anything actionable, YOU'll of course be held responsible ! NOT difficult to find you: you're listed and you've made yourself known.

I have to take responsibility for everything I've said or done here.

That you'll have to do.

rshow55 - 03:37pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17572 of 17572)

I've asked for a format where I can be held responsible - but can know what is said about me - on a basis that ought not to conflict with any valid NYT interest whatsoever.

Why don't you write to NYT with ALL this and other things you've been whining about here ? Do you need to continue it till the axe falls.

If it does conflict - it conflicts with patterns I think need to change. And I've got to fight. And believe ( as I think Scottie Reston would have as well ) that it would be a necessary fight - in a cause that has to be pushed through if people are ever to solve some of their most basic problems.

All you seem to do is MERELY talk about "fighting": those who actually can and do, don't keep talking about it, or threatening constantly with it. They DO something -- something you seem NOT interested in doing -- for whatever reason !

rshow55 - 03:54pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17576 of 17583)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

If the record is unavailable - decisions can't be made that need to be made - that I need made - that other people need made.

Like you're three:

Here are facts that it seems to me are basic - things that we all know - and have to know at some level - from about the time we learn to talk.

People say and do things

What people say and do have consequences, for themselves and for other people.

People need to deal with and understand these consequences, for all sorts of practical, down to earth reasons.

. So everybody has a stake in right answers to questions of fact that they use as assumptions when they think about what they say and what they do.

If the bolded point, just above, were more widely and deeply understood - and linked to the simple points just above it -- a great many things in the world would be better - and people, just as they are, could solve many of the most important and practical problems they face.

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In the case of this thread - I have an enormous interest in preserving the record - and if my education and background mean anything at all (and I think they do) there's a big public interest in preserving the record. Responsibly.

More than that - if I'm to function as an economic and social actor - especially on large scale work - I have to be able to tell my story - and say what I've said and done.

I don't think the NYT put all this staff work into the thread by mistake, either. They thought it was important.

rshow55 - 03:56pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17577 of 17583)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

cantabb - we can fight about that. And I have every intention of telling people who I think is behind the monikers - when that information seems worth talking about.

In this case - if you guys work for the NYT - and if gisterme has connections to the government - it surely is worth talking about.

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