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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 03:15pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17567 of 17583)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

. Cantabb: Agree. YOU have "worked" a lot and hard on this thread for 3+years -- on something we still don't know

People learn - eventually. http://www.mrshowalter.net/PiagetCognitiveLimits.htm

We're dealing with a paradigm shift here - and a change has to come.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_new_0100s/md115n.htm rshow55 - 05:34pm Mar 2, 2002 EST (#116 of 132)

Here are some references, to the Riley-Showalter paradigm thread, Paradigm Shift .... whose getting there? . . . that I think describe, in a new and clearer way, how paradigm conflict works.

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The practical and moral implications - for me, for the nation, for the world - and for the TIMES - are very great. People have to learn how they can be wrong - and how people figure things out. That's worth fighting for.

For people to be successful in TURNING AWAY FROM THE HOLOCAUST by Max Frankel Nov 14, 2001 .. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/14/specials/onefifty/20FRAN.html - we have to learn this material.

That means that the New York Times does. This is a matter of right and wrong at a level where the New York Times is expected to show leadership.

jorian319 - 03:30pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17568 of 17583)

if I'm trying to raise money for any deal I'm involved in - a private detective probably should run down leads on this Missile Defense board.

Yeh. If he does it before tomorrow! After that, he'll have to get it from your site and you'll have nobody to blame for what they find, but yourself!

rshow55 - 03:32pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17569 of 17583)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Jorian , that's not true - and you have to know it.

And I have an interest - as everybody does - in not hiding the essentials of what I've said and done - if I expect to be trusted.

rshow55 - 03:33pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17570 of 17583)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Everybody who knows me at all well, and a lot of people who don't - know about this thread. I can't afford to have it buried.

I have to take responsibility for everything I've said or done here.

Other people, within limits, will have to do so as well.

cantabb - 03:37pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17571 of 17583)

rshow55 - 03:15pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17567 of 17567)

The practical and moral implications - for me, for the nation, for the world - and for the TIMES - are very great.

Wow. From whining/grovelling to self-aggrandizement -- in one easy leap !

People have to learn how they can be wrong - and how people figure things out. That's worth fighting for.

Do these people who "have to learn how they can be wrong" include YOU, by any chance ?

Some people can also "figure ...out" lot of things from NON-existing things !

rshow55 - 03:37pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17572 of 17583)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I've asked for a format where I can be held responsible - but can know what is said about me - on a basis that ought not to conflict with any valid NYT interest whatsoever.

If it does conflict - it conflicts with patterns I think need to change. And I've got to fight. And believe ( as I think Scottie Reston would have as well ) that it would be a necessary fight - in a cause that has to be pushed through if people are ever to solve some of their most basic problems.

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