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"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
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rshow55
- 01:56pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (#
17546 of 17564) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
For putting complex deals together that can be
stable this is crucial.
People should be much more clear about this.
Especially at the New York Times.
And certainly a case where they should be sensitive is when
they are using "coded monikers" where everyone in a defined
group knows who is who - and outsiders don't.
rshow55
- 01:57pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (#
17547 of 17564) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
The New York Times - perhaps more than any other
organization in the secular society - is expected to be
responsible about what it says and implies.
cantabb
- 02:07pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (#
17548 of 17564)
rshow55 - 12:42pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17525 of
17537)
If a New York Times reporter or editor can
actually ask " Why are you so concerned what anyone would
say about you (without your knowledge) ? " and not know the
answer - that explains a lot about the relationship between
the NYT and the rest of the world that ought to be fixed.
Don’t tax your ‘logic’. Nothing rational forthcoming yet.
If the point can be made by a responsible
person at the Times who doesn't know how crucial and
sensitive the issue is - that explains a lot, too.
You and you alone announced and flaunted your own
identity and personal life – numerous times. It’s your problem
– NOT anyone else’s !
For example, it explains a lot about how the
Jayson Blair business could have happened. People are
generally so afraid of the NYT that people in it have become
totally lacking in knowledge and feeling in crucial areas.
Makes NO sense. What’s the parallel with the Blair incident
(a regrettable chapter for NYT, indeed). None that I see.
rshow55 - 12:51pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17527 of
17537)
If someone with high influence at the paper
doesn't know it - then the judgement that people expect and
trust in a paper that sets itself up as supplying "All the
news that's fit to print" is badly in need of some basic
education.
Incoherent rant.
To judge fitness - sensitivity to everything
involved in the question " Why are people so concerned what
anyone would say about them (without their knowledge) ? "
has to be assumed - because that sensitivity is fundamental
to any decent judgement of fitness.
Meaningless verbiage. You can NOT stop people from
talking. Plain and simple. Or, else people will be in the same
boat as you happen to be in. What planet are you on ? Find out
what's actionable FIRST, and how successful you can be in
suing anybody for that.
lchic - 12:52pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17528 of 17537)
From a 'management' stance the Blair-Flare
indicates a failure to appreciate what should be expected
from an employee in a set time period .... Blair was issuing
'output' to demand NYT fell down in the 'quality' stakes ...
because ... there was an assumption that professionals
follow a code there was no 'personal' interaction with
seniors there was a lack of realism regarding the time
required to do a job - to professional standards .... a
failure to appreciate the process - the stages - the
checking and re-checking
ALL your own obsession running wild in the last desperate
days for you (Blair affair totally irrelevant here). You STILL
think posters are NYT employees asked by their management to
make rshow’s and your life miserable.
Wake up: Can't they can simply BAN your and rshow’s
access to the forums ? That easy ! And, here you concocting
stories from non-existent material. But that’s the world you
and rshow have chosen to live in.
Take the Cantabbulator --- an echo -- a
process .... BIG on the small small on the BIG
Is this prattle supposed to make sense ?
Didn’t know all this has had such severe effect on you.
rshow55 - 01:24pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17535 of
17537)
cantabb - if you are an employee of the New
York Times - you and the New York Times are responsible for
what you say and its consequences - even if you are (
semi)hiding behind a moniker. Speaking "unconnected to the
NYT" yet in the NYT's name and with its implied authority.
Same old paranoia. You’re spinning a story without
anything like a yarn. Like lchic !
If you, or Sulzberger, or the NYT legal
department believe you have a right to say anything -
regardless of consequences - we have something well worth
fighting about here.
For the nth time, NONE of these people have even a
shadow of an influence upon ME.
GOT THAT ?
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