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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 11:50am Nov 12, 2003 EST (# 17399 of 17401)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

But I was trying to take a little time to write a couple of emails - maybe three - to Sulzberger, Apcar, and manj.

. . . . .

And do an annotation of Natalie Angier's Is War Our Biological Destiny http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/11/science/11WAR.html

Maybe I've just been "going around in circles" after all ( see image in In the Crowd's Frenzy by Natalie Angier http://www.mrshowalter.net/IntheCrowd'sFrenzy.htm ) . . . .

But I've been trying to explain about convergent sequences in natural language - and how they connect ( and are disconnected ) from pictures, math, and technical specification. Plus come up with a few check lists.

So folks could take the incidence of injury and death way down - - and I might collect some back pay, maybe.

Sorry for being so slow. I guess I just have to face that about myself.

rshow55 - 11:57am Nov 12, 2003 EST (# 17400 of 17401)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

15134 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@9303@.f28e622/16846

For something that takes up a lot of life - there are many purposes - many missions - that have to be handled in turn. And balanced. Just as the defense needs, and domestic needs, of the US and the world have to be understood, worked out, and balanced.

. Ecclesiastes 3: 1-13 - was condensed and set to music by the Byrds as b Turn, Turn, Turn http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~harel/cgi/page/htmlit?Turn_Turn_Turn.html

Here is an incomplete list of Mission STATEMENTS:

For things to go better - in a lot of areas that matter - standards of checking for facts and relations have to go up - and go up substantially. Lchic and I are trying to explain how checking can be effectively done - and raise these standards. 12160 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vr9qb7DlX7e.2902498@.f28e622/13797

. Lchic and I have intended for this thread to be, (or prototype) the largest bandwidth, clearest line of political-military communication that has ever existed between the US and Russia. 1999 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vr9qb7DlX7e.2902498@.f28e622/2484 Communication between Russia and the United States during the Cold War was astonishingly defective - and with little that was cross-checkable. We've thought it a reasonable mission to show patterns that if staffed could produce a much higher level of stable understanding and cooperation ( in the presence of understood disagreements ) than existed before.

Resortings take time - take resources -but they can make it possible to see things and do things that would be impossible without the sortings. To be sure you're right before going ahead - - can take some careful sorting. Resortings can permit reframings. We need to be both conservative, about what we have and have working - and open minded about possibilities for change. Lchic and I care about collecting and sorting and evaluating information - and consider it a mission to show how the technical jobs of "sorting things out" can be better done - by example and explicit teaching. http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vr9qb7DlX7e.2902498@.f28e622/15094

. Lchic and I have intended to show how problems that were previously too complicated to be tractable could be solved. There are some problems that must be defined, and focused, and negotiated in great, clear, and documented detail, if they are to get to workable, sane closure at all. For a number of things important to peace and prosperity, closure - and complex cooperation, was technically impossible until recent advances in communication. The technical constraints can rather easily be removed now , because of the capabilities of the internet - including some prototyped here. We've considered it a mission to work on the human and logical barriers that remain.

. Lchic and I are trying to explain something vital for peace and prosperity - something that has screwed up much too often. How to construct and trim stable oscillatory solutions - where nothing else can possibly work - and where these solutions can do well - if people take their time and fit them carefully. 7789-90 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vr9qb7DlX7e.2902498@.f28e622/9314

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