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Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 10:57am Nov 11, 2003 EST (# 17264 of 17271)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Let's suppose I attacked you on television - and made incompletely supported claims - and asked for money in a way associated with chicanery before - offering people copies of NYT copyrighted material, without permission, while doing so. Maybe using the names of NYT celebrities without their permission . . . . but with full disclosure of what I was doing and why.

And in ways that a lot of people would judge to be "for a good cause" - and totally above board. Noble even.

A kind of "uncivil disobedience".

Maybe for a series of days. Maybe with some e-mail and web activity to back up this effort. Maybe for a lot of money . .

Just musing here . . .

Would the gray lady just ignore such impertenance ?

She might try . . . .

. . . .

just musing . . . .

cantabb - 10:59am Nov 11, 2003 EST (# 17265 of 17271)

rshow55 - 10:41am Nov 11, 2003 EST (# 17260 of 17262)

More implied threats to NYT ?

Of course, I've never done anything like that in the past, so it might backfire.

You never know.

To produce stable "fights" - you don't want to give the other guy a chance.

What's a "stable" fight ? If not in a stable. You mean a perpetual state of fighting ? Or fighting with a "stable" mind ?

Re-visiting your teenage/pre-teen "fighting"? Or still wrapped up in it ?

So I'm thinking about giving an "exact" warning on what I'd like to do. So defenses can be cleanly set up. Defenses that are well set up are usually very unstable.

Negotiating lawyers think through patterns like this all the time . . . .

When they're dealing with people of the same culture - who know each other well enough to judge what makes sense.

Between nation states - these patterns have been very unstable.

We need to fix that. Prototyping could be useful. With real stakes, but small ones.

How could I line up the NYT so that they were so pressed, so desperate, that they could actually make some money on this thread - and do some things they half want to do?

That would make a win-win solution possible.

It would take a calibrated, credible threat, with the right timing and the right geometry - and an alternative that worked much better available as well. Sometimes, in such circumstances - there is no alternative to getting just to the edge of a fight - and stepping back.

Maybe after a skirmish or two.

Problem is - this is unstable. So lawyers often discuss what their principles can and will do to each other - and, from time to time, settlements happen. Including some very good deals.

rshow55 - 11:00am Nov 11, 2003 EST (# 17266 of 17271)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

You guys might be forced to accept a part of a solar energy deal, for example.

Maybe not forced . . . but tempted.

Maybe we could get Howell Raines to mediate the dispute . .

Of maybe you could be forced to break a story - -

Or sue me, under conditions where names and circumstances might be hard to keep under cover - especially if I could get a few hundred journalists watching . . .

rshow55 - 11:03am Nov 11, 2003 EST (# 17267 of 17271)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

If you guys could be forced to let me have some information - - then I might be able to get some very long suffering AEA investors paid.

Might to go jail for security fraud in the process - but the evidence to send me up would be enough to get the AEA investors compensated - and odds are my term would be short.

And I'd have my good name when I came out -

lchic - 11:06am Nov 11, 2003 EST (# 17268 of 17271)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

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