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- 11:42am Nov 8, 2003 EST (#
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ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has
to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong
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- 11:49am Nov 8, 2003 EST (#
16845 of 16986)
"In re" wrcooper - 10:44am Nov 8, 2003 EST (# 16839
klsanford : I have no idea what set you off.
I've been dealing with Bob Showlater longer than anyone else
in the forums. I've actually met the man face to face. I
think I'm as qualified as anyone to judge his value to the
[and wrcooper - 10:45am Nov 8, 2003
EST (# 16840 of 16841)
cantabb: Ditto for you.]
And, you have already posted your 'professional'
psychoanalysis of him a few times. Seeking to meet him was a
real 'tribute' to your effort and personal concern; I know of
no one who would do the same. Too bad you were to regret it
The question before us was NOT "judging his value" but to
see if he can focus and remain on-topic, and to deal with him
-- effectively -- but not aiding and abetting him in numerous
futile discussions and to be taken on his endless detours.
As I said before, "ignoring" him was not going to be
effective. However, you disagreed, based on your LONG
experience, a decision ["ignore" him] you had repeatedly
rationalized as THE only way !
And, NOW, what do we see: a U-turn or someone staying
the course ?
I've been trying to encourage him to move on
for a long time. I think he's stuck in a psychic vortex, and
I've said so. If you want to judge that as being
intellectually snobbish, that's fine.
You may have -- while you continued lengthy discussions
with him for a LONG time. But that personal 'humanitarian'
concern for him apparently did NOT work for you, as we later
That was an entirely different matter. The question I had
was: To see if he can focus and and remain on-topic and to see
he justifies his claims. And, for that one needed to confront
-- NOT "ignore"-- him. And, confronting him seems to have
worked fairly well in about 7 weeks [sure at some expense;
everything has its cost]: Something that the regulars,
including you, were UNABLE to bring about in 3-plus years. And
I doubt if you would have achieved much of anything, had you
(and others) followed your own advice and "ignored" him. Nice,
however, to see YOU finally realize that you too have outgrown
your own advice.
Now, jump on the bandwagon...
I don't understand your reaction to what I
said, but I really don't care.
An analysis of the situation, and not told-you-so.
Deconstructing an argument -- a heavily flawed and unfocused
-- sure, takes a sustained effort but not a whole lot of time.
Hope this helps. But if it does NOT, I'll now happily
follow you : "I really don't care."
- 11:56am Nov 8, 2003 EST (#
16846 of 16986)
lchic - 11:06am Nov 8, 2003 EST (# 16842 of 16845)
Cantabb - Irrignorable! irrational
irreconcilable irredeemable irreducible irrefutable
Cantabb - Irrignorable!
ALL this for asking the Commandant the same questions she
had been demanding of other posters ?
Obviously, inconvenient -- when the shoe is on the other
So, once again, lchic: What's your employment
affiliation (we know it ain't NYT), and what is your
REAL interest in this thread ?
When are you going to let THIS "TRUTH" out ?
May be "freddie "Irregardless" moore" can help us
with "Irrignorable" !
- 11:59am Nov 8, 2003 EST (#
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jorian319 - 11:42am Nov 8, 2003 EST (# 16843 of 16846)
You ok lchic? You seem a bit irrigitable
Spamming does that to you. Particularly when you do this to
avoid answering the same questions you ask of others !
Shoe on the other foot is always a little too tight !
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