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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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klsanford0 - 11:45pm Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16820 of 16832)


" (rshow55's)wishful thinking."

If you are foolish enough to believe that this Forum has become an open sewer of public insanity and mental illness through a little "wishful thinking" than you are more in need of psychiatric help than Showalter, and that's saying something. First you scorn all of us who attack Showalter's presence here, and try to play the superior mind who's "above it all"; then, Cooper shows up, takes off "ignore" for two minutes, sees what all the rest of us have been seeing, bet, immediately starts babbling about what we've been saying all along...what a hypocrite this Cooper is....useless in every way to this more welcome than Showalter...

klsanford0 - 11:54pm Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16821 of 16832)

WRCooper is the perfect example of a person who considers himself to have a superior intellect, and doesn't. First, he allows Showalter for three years to destroy any attempt at making this Forum work, and in fact aids and abets Showalter. When people complain about this, what does Cooper do that is constructive..? Nothing. Just complains at them, always with the "de haut en bas" attitude.....then when the Forum's dead anyway, this fool Cooper wakes up to what's been happening right under his nose for three years...and discovers it's just...shocking! A perfect example of the regulars being just as responsible as the mentally-ill for destroying the Forum...

And as for this cretin "fredmoore", he's such a fantastically disastrous utterMoron that there's little else one can say...the "regulars" should be Banned along with Showalter...

lchic - 12:00am Nov 8, 2003 EST (# 16822 of 16832)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Missile "One is never perceived, one is received" OUCH!

Eugene Delacroix: "One is never perceived, one is received."

lchic - 12:26am Nov 8, 2003 EST (# 16823 of 16832)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

From Rumsfeld:

"The message is that there are no knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns, that is to say there are things we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- things we do not know we don't know.

"So when we do the best we can and we pull all this information together, and we then say 'well, that's basically what we see as the situation', that is really only the known knowns and the known unknowns. And each year we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns," he said.

Acknowledging that his argument might sound like a riddle, Rumsfeld concluded with a flourish: "There is another way to phrase that, and that is that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

lchic - 12:49am Nov 8, 2003 EST (# 16824 of 16832)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

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