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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 06:20pm Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16792 of 16804)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

"Matter of national security, world peace and stability, and saving lives."

Yes, that's been a central motivation for me.

Eisenhower played a lot of golf - a lot of it with Scottie Reston - and the reason was that a main conduit into the national consciousness, then as now, is The New York Times .

When I got in trouble - and Casey and I couldn't figure anything else to do - Casey kept saying "if you can't explain it to The New York Times - you can't explain it so it works in this country" - and so he told me, in a pinch, to " come in through The New York Times ". ( Casey distrusted all "intellectuals" - including me - and thought TIMES people were bastards - but smart, plugged in bastards. ) We didn't think about the internet in 1986 - and things have gone differently than anyone could have anticipated.

But I've sure been hoping that folks at the NYT have noticed things I've posted (and especially summaries that Lchic has posted ) because for intellectual influence - in the real culture as it is - this is the place.

Warts and all.

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I think that, if the ideas worked out on this thread could be condensed and learned - every bit of effort anybody's put out here would be well worth it.

My guess, in September 2000 - was that the odds of the world blowing up - from basic instabilities - and near-total noncommunication between the US and Russia - was maybe 10% year - - - maybe that was just a deluded guess - but I think Eisenhower might well have made that guess, too.

Lets see --- six billion people And a tenth chance of dying from nukes per year A "statistical expected value" of a hundred Jewish holocausts, per year or one point six million "expected deaths" per day. Many, many WTC disasters per hour.

But just a guess.

Making that guess, I've done the best I could - and so has lchic .

And so, in very significant ways, has The New York Times .

Now, communication between the US and Russia is much better - and a lot of technical work - and explanatory work - making stable accomodations more likely has been set out.

Now maybe I'm deluded (some would delete the "maybe" ) but if NYT people have been watching - this thread may have been a very good use of my time. And if gisterme and almarst have had connections I've suspected - and lchic has suspected - a very good use of time.

cantabb - 06:22pm Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16793 of 16804)


Calling your attention to the question you have NOT answered:

cantabb - 02:24pm Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16766 of 16791) to rshow55 - 01:22pm Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16751 of 16757)

If you and lchic are so interested in poster IDs, What’s lchic employment affiliation, and what’s her vested interest/motives ?

As I said, I ask you because BOTH of you, together and individually, have been obsessed with this, and have been harassing me and other posters. When I asked lchic, she disappeared: She has NOT answered the question YET. Uncomfortable ? But I intend to press for it.

When is this "TRUTH" going to "ultimately" conme out ?

rshow55 - 06:24pm Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16794 of 16804)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

But I will be glad when it shuts down - so that it is finished - and I can summarize it - and use it as something finished.

And make some money.

As long as fencing has to continue - I'll keep up my guard and go on fencing. Knife fights are rather like that.

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