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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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cantabb - 12:07pm Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16737 of 16745)

rshow55 - 10:24am Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16735 of 16736)

In my case, there's enough involved for me - in terms of my life - that I need some things in writing. For all I know, they would only be affirmations of standard NYT company policies from a handbook. Nonetheless, I need them in writing.

Pursue the matter with NYT.

I know it is not MD - but some may be interested in a lot of dialog that occurred after WWI ......- these technical barriers have been removed.

You seem more interested in posting on it, and who can stop you. So, why not?

The note I dictated to Apcar's phone line, referred to this morning, includes this. "I'm not asking the NYT to endorse me in any way - surely in no way beyond the respectful language you used about my board work in your letter of Oct 29 - and in the respectful language of our phone conversation. Nor am I asking the NYT to forgo any of the powers it has as a newspaper - if I've done something the NYT wishes to print a story about, or inquire about for a journalistic purpose. Nor am I asking the TIMES to forgo communicating anything that it feels a duty as a citizen to communicate to anyone."

Re-posting what was posted before ?

Here are issues where I DID want some discussion - so that we could get a comfortable meeting of the minds. The wording is from the draft I read from But I DO ask that anything they tell others about me - they also tell me

And whatever agreement we come to about confidentiality or non-confidentiality can be shown to people I interact with - with the expectation that I ask these people to report back to me about whether their communication conforms to it.

Examples - - - for purposes of clarification - - might be discussed over the phone. I've asked that that be discussed. Perhaps we can do it openly.

Again, for you to pursue with NYT ! Of NO relevance here.

I'm cooking and eating breakfast - so I'll be off the board a little while, but ...

You don't want to also tell us what're you cooking, and how ?

while I"m off, could anyone explain to me why either Jorian, or Cantabb, or the Times, or anybody else has any reason to object to these links - not just in general - though generalities matter - but in terms of the specific circumstanes of this board - which is an exceptional board in some ways, though not in others:

You're going to do it anyway. So, why worry about its appropriateness, taste or "good manners," ?

What would be the reasonable objections to a similar posting of the collected works of bluestar23 - or myself, or lchic ?

Obviously, none that you'd worry about. I'm waiting for a CD of my own "Collected Works," to go with my name "written on subway walls..."

What would the objections be if I were to email or mail these links to embassies - or to news organizations - or to various organizations.

Uh uh ! The world of diplomacy --for world peace and stability ?

cantabb - 12:07pm Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16738 of 16745)

rshow55 - 10:25am Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16736 of 16736)

There are points that need to be discussed - so that people involved in necessarily complicated lives can work.

They don't "need to be discussed" ! YOU want to discuss them for your own personal reasons.

This board is complicated enough that that discussion can and should serve needs that go both ways .

What else do you think has been happening in exchanges here ?

rshow55 - 12:42pm Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16739 of 16745)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Cantabb: What else do you think has been happening in exchanges here ?

In decision making - one needs nonoscillatory answers under many circumstances for stability.

In the usages of this board, Cantabb acts both as a NYT employee - and denies that he is.

Here is a basic logical point.

If I had a signed piece of paper from the NYT saying that Cantabb either was or was not a NYT employee - I could accomodate to either answer - whether I happened to believe it or not.


With oscillation of answers - many sociotechnical systems cannot be built stably.

That's a very basic fact - and if some people know it - many, many people (including diplomats ) do not.

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