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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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cantabb
- 08:11am Nov 7, 2003 EST (#
16730 of 16734)
rshow55 - 04:04am Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16723 of 16729)
The only one ["affiliation"] I actually know
about in any detail is the affiliation she [lchic] has to
her family - and the people she knows. For a long time,
because of correspondence, I thought that she had very good
contacts with the New York Times - and might work for them.
That's clear from the record here.
Those are the kinds of affiliations (family, friends etc)
most of us have, but “affiliation” here meant exactly what she
(and you) have been demanding of others, including ME.
Normally, I wouldn't ask you or anyone questions about another
person, but lchic seems to speak and defend you and your work
and you do the same for her, your collaborator. And she has
been (just like you) demanding "affiliation" of other posters
(and, if you get an answer you don't like, then 'assigning'
them to NYT or government, etc) --poster harassment, plain and
simple !
So, to be fair, tell us who does lchic work for and
what’s her interest here? You can mention this in your
next conversation.
As to your own "affiliation," it looks like posting here
(and elsewhere) IS your FULL-time effort, and your “work” !
cantabb
- 08:22am Nov 7, 2003 EST (#
16731 of 16734)
rshow55 - 04:33am Nov 7, 2003 EST (# 16724 of 16729)
In self defense, I think it right to post
these letters now. If that is "bad manners" - there have
surely been plenty of bad manners in postings over past
weeks from bluestar23 and cantabb .
Asking questions and explanations is NOT “bad manners.”
Reallly "bad manners" : Demanding poster affilations ---
questions like : Did you work for NYT, etc? – not just once
but repeatedly and insistently. Actually, height of insolence
!
Also, making totally self-serving and one-side comments on
my posts on other Forums [Guardian and elsewhere ], WITHOUT
posting my responses, IS “bad manners.”
Thanks for posting your 26 October letter to Sulzberger,
NYT (in which you mentioned me and other posters), and Len
Apcar’s response (Oct 29) to you. To me, the only surprise was
their unusually prompt action: kate_nyt decision to shut the
forum down (Nov 3).
In your letter to Sulzberger, this I thought was key
to a lot of anguish about “leaving gracefully” :
“At the same time, the thread has been
something of a prison to me - for exceptional reasons
known to your organization. I'd appreciate a chance to
leave that "prison" - under circumstances that will
accentuate the positive and eliminate some negatives -
rather than have to leave it "mangled and spun dry".
I'd be grateful for help in doing that. “ [rshow55]
[emphasis added]
This thread “a prison” to you ? Looks more like you locked
yourself in a cell and have kept the key, and now pleading
others to release you. The key has always been in your hand.
This was also pointed out to you on this thread, but you
repeatedly declined the suggestions for “leaving gracefully.”
I've NO idea why you should feel "mangled and spun dry,”
and have seen no evidence to point to anything/anyone. This
couldn’t have been caused by asking questions you never
answered or by pointing to the inadequacies in your arguments
and speculations.
I think Apcar pointed you to the obvious – the way others
did here for sometime.
“Many people come and go from our forums and
you are certainly free to do so. If it feels like a burden
to you, I would certainly understand your decision to move
on to other projects and interests,” [Len Apcar, Oct 29 to
rshow55].
And if you think this comment was “entirely consistent with
[your] request,” then what’s the problem, then ? You are free
to leave the “prison” [or “house arrest”] however “gracefully”
you wish -- the key has always been with YOU, not with NYT or
other posters.
lchic
- 08:46am Nov 7, 2003 EST (#
16732 of 16734) ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has
to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong
foundation
Cantabb ... you've been posting NYT threads for years ...
and yet ... it was only on 17th Sept 2003, around the time
that Colin Powell visited the NYT to demand of media more
'good news' that you came and sat on this thread - in a
non-contributory manner, with no interest in the subject
matter of the thread - whatsoever!
lchic
- 09:12am Nov 7, 2003 EST (#
16733 of 16734) ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has
to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong
foundation
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/PA-NYT.html
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