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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 05:04pm Nov 6, 2003 EST (# 16670 of 16675)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

On the question of who is posting - the avoidance of a simple solution not so long ago is worth remembering - and I think my comments hold with redoubled force now.

rshow55 - 06:20pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15515 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Y8RtbMwOVVm.1839603@.f28e622/17228

Note what's under discussion.

If I had a letter acknowledging something that the NYT either knows - or could easily find out - I could function pretty well.

The existence of what I've written on this thread is not fantasy - and posts by people set out in Cast of Characters: http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Y8RtbMwOVVm.1839603@.f28e622/14978 are no fantasy either.

Some of the things that have happened to me that seem to have involved NYT employees - including people who have said they were NYT employees - or said things that implied that very strongly - have been pretty rough - and officers of the NYT would know that.

Do I have no right to find out who these people are - because they're associated with the sainted New York Times?

I'm not sure everybody who puts faith in The New York Times - or its officers - would agree to that.

We're dealing here with issues a lot more important than anything involved with the Jayson Blair case, it seems to me.

I bet I could find some people and institutions to agree to that - in a pinch.

Why not a "win-win" situation, instead of a fight? Even if you happen not to like me?

Why not be honest ?

rshow55 - 06:23pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15516 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Y8RtbMwOVVm.1839603@.f28e622/17229

I asked:

Do I have no right to find out who these people are - because they're associated with the sainted New York Times?

and that seems a good question.

But I ask a weaker question.

Do I have no right to find out that these people are employed by the New York Times - because the sainted New York Times is above the usual responsibilities expected of others?

lchic - 06:34pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15518 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Y8RtbMwOVVm.1839603@.f28e622/17231

NYT Mission Statement

The Company's core purpose is to enhance society by creating, collecting and distributing high-quality news, information and entertainment.

http://www.nytco.com/company.html

rshow55 - 06:36pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15519 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Y8RtbMwOVVm.1839603@.f28e622/17232

Note content - but also the poem - and its date - I've been working ont win-win negotiations and how to get them to closure - for a long time.

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Y8RtbMwOVVm.1839603@.f28e622/16217

rshow55 - 06:40pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15520 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Y8RtbMwOVVm.1839603@.f28e622/17233

The Company's core purpose is to enhance society by creating, collecting and distributing high-quality news, information and entertainment.

My core purpose is to keep promises I made a long time ago - and if the New York Times took reasonable action I in its own interest as well as in mine - that would be something that would enhance society.

Or - if it turned out I was lying - on things that actually mattered for function - the NYT would not be without resources to go after me.

- - - -

Now, we almost got to closure on something less onerous to the Times - and when I asked for some feedback over the phone - got this most recent explosion of posts instead.

jorian319 - 05:08pm Nov 6, 2003 EST (# 16671 of 16675)

rshow55:

It isn't "paranoia" for a reader to guess that cantabb and bluestar23 work for the TIMES - it is a very reasonable guess.

Hmmm. I consider myself a "very reasonable" person. Yet, guessing that cantabb and/or Bluestar are affiliated with NYT strikes me as specious, unreasonable and irresponsible.

Either

  • Robert has access to information regarding these posters that is not available by reading their posts, or

  • He is an astounding intellect, capable of accurate inference beyond anything I've ever seen, and is uniquely capable of disguising that fact, or

  • Such guesses are in fact specious, unreasonable and irresponsible.

    You be the judge.

    rshow55 - 05:16pm Nov 6, 2003 EST (# 16672 of 16675)
    Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

    Other people might make different judgements than yours, Jorian319 - and if it came to a test - there would be ways of asking reasonable questions - and finding out.

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