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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 07:50am Nov 5, 2003 EST (# 16559 of 16562)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

16410 <a href="/webin/WebX?14@13.imMVb1RUVFN.1418439@.f28e622/18125">rshow55 11/3/03 8:55pm</a> includes this:

My involvement with the Missile Defense board started with discussion about nuclear weapons on the old NYT Favorite Poetry board. ( links) . . .

My involvement with the Missile Defense thread began on a Monday, at 07:32am Sep 25, 2000 EST (#266) Ridding the world of nuclear weapons, this year or next year. What would have to happen? rshowalt 9/25/00 7:32am . For the rest of that day, I had a discussion with "becq," . .

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md266.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md273.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md280.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md290.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md300.htm

ending at #304, which is worth reading in itself ... rshowalt 9/25/00 5:28pm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md304.htm

cantabb - 08:55pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16411 followed with a key question, referring to my 16409 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.imMVb1RUVFN.1418439@.f28e622/18124

" I was assigned to work on exception handling patterns that neither the formal intelligence apparatus, nor the private sector as it was, nor the academic community could handle - in ways that I thought then, and still think, made sense in the overall national interest - and in the interest of our capitalistic system, our political system - and the academy.

You mean something nebulous and undefined !

- -

In a sense, yes, in another sense, no - and there's no contradiction. Search keys are both "nebulous and undefined" - the patterns used in " fishing expeditions" and organizing principles.

Eisenhower was desperate to get some key problems clarified and solved - he was stumped and diffuse in some ways - and very clear in others.

I'm diffuse in some ways - and very clear in others - and though I don't "have all the answers" I feel confident that lchic and I have gotten some of the most important answers that worried Eisenhower.

Jorian , it seems to me, could object and say "But it is an OUTRAGE to do this on the New York Times' nickel - and without giving them much choice, either."

That may be right - but at the end of the first day I spent on the board - I asked for help that sure seemed reasonable to me then, and still does now:

#304... rshowalt 9/25/00 5:28pm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md304.htm - - and if I'd gotten it - September 25 might have been my only day on the board.

rshow55 - 07:55am Nov 5, 2003 EST (# 16560 of 16562)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

16410 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.imMVb1RUVFN.1418439@.f28e622/18125

14169 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.imMVb1RUVFN.1418439@.f28e622/15878 seems nice to cite, too. It includes a reference to http://www.mrshowalter.net/CommendationTo_Kolata_EichwaldandNYT.htm - which can be called diffuse in some ways - but is pretty specific in others.

For example - it specifically maps to some unsolved problems in game theory that we've discussed on this board.

I think it is interesting why it is so hard for me to get NYT people to meet with me face-to-face. Look at the expense they are willing to go to to avoid it !

And the contortions !

cantabb - 07:56am Nov 5, 2003 EST (# 16561 of 16562)

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Kate_nyt:

It's done, Kate. Been done for long time. Stick your fork in it ...

Those who wanted to 'save' this slop have already done so and added to the CORPUS.

Why wait ? Unless NYT want to accumulate this slop only to delete it 10 days later....

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