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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 07:16pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16393 of 16396)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Will the echoing Cantabbulator be shut down .... or marketed as a desktop executive toy for the man who has everything ... ?

Is the moon cheese? Will it turn blue ... green?

rshow55 - 07:18pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16394 of 16396)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Bluestar23 asks: "Do you think this harms your body of work or not?"

I'd been hoping for that decision weeks ago.

rshow55 - 06:36am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14706

About 24 hours ago: 14617

About two days ago: 14507-9

Leaks and the Courts: There's Law, but Little Order By ADAM LIPTAK

. . . . "Reporters ordered to reveal their sources almost never do, on the theory that they and their colleagues would have little chance of persuading other sources to trust them if they did. They generally prefer to be held in contempt of court. Reporters have spent time in jail and publishers have paid substantial fines as a consequence.

What if the issue is an unwillingness of reporters and corporate officers to reveal who they are? And a willingness of reporters to use the implicit presumption of their connections - without taking responsibility for them ?

Suggestion: "Crypto" . . "Watergate" and "Byrd" are interesting searches.

People have to do some switching.

. Ecclesiastes 3: 1-13 - condensed and set to music by the Byrds as Turn, Turn, Turn

A problem I'm having, guys, is that it is hard to summarize while fencing - and especially so while laughing . . .

Some things are only so funny. Though from a certain perspective - a lot of things are.

What, Me Worry About Insults?,%20Me%20Worry%20About%20Insults.htm

We are sociotechnical beings - and as such we have a lot to hope for - and a lot to fear - from changes in ordering.

A lot has happened since I sent this postcard - and it is interesting - and "funny" from a number of perspectives.

People may be muddled - and I may be more muddled than many. It takes people a while - but we can get useful results - and break "codes" and "mysteries".

We're now at a point where - for people in power to keep that from happening - they have to say:

. NO FAIR connecting those dots in interconnected ways - and keeping at it enough for focus !

The nature of that fight - which is an essential fight in our time - is getting clearer. The fight is being clarified, and fought, on this thread.

If all this text was reorganized for a purpose carefully enough - often enough - a lot of it, I believe - would look very good. For instance, the "collected works of Fredmoore." and the collected works of Lchic , too.

It is a long time since Watergate:

Assessing Watergate 30 Years Later By RICHARD REEVES

"President Richard Nixon would have loved the coverage of the 30th anniversary of the Watergate break-in last week. The scandal that drove him from office has been pretty much reduced to a little guessing game about who did or didn't whisper in the ear of a young Washing- ton Post reporter that there were some bad things going on in the White House. Who was Deep Throat? Who cares? The press cares, that's who.

In the intervening time - things have gotten more complicated - and uncorrected problems of irresponsible power have gotten more serious.

With new tools for "connecting the dots" - a lot more can be sorted out than was possible before.

Irresponsible power - including irresponsible power of the press - is vulnerable in new ways.

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bluestar23 - 07:18pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16395 of 16396)

Your plaything is gone lchic...time to go elsewhere...

bluestar23 - 07:20pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16396 of 16396)


Where are you going to go to connect the dots now? a new Forum?

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