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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 07:58am Nov 2, 2003 EST (# 16177 of 16228)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

When William Tell shot his arrow he militarized space, terrorised a child ... and hit the apple.

lchic - 08:02am Nov 2, 2003 EST (# 16178 of 16228)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Blue everyone can read and understand .... that sentence .... but YOU ... take it slowly and try again

usages of the Cold War have compromised the patterns of trust

lchic - 08:06am Nov 2, 2003 EST (# 16179 of 16228)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

When William Tell shot his arrow he militarized space, terrorised a child ... and hit the apple.

Tell's small scale project should be replicated to a larger scale ... at a further distance can we now hit the apple ...

hold it ....

the child is quins

can we now hit the apple, apple, apple, apple, apple

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Hold in there ... the Quins live on MARS

can we now hit the apple, apple, apple, apple, apple

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lchic - 08:13am Nov 2, 2003 EST (# 16180 of 16228)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

On the local scene mortgage borrowings have overextended people, the economy is based around house supply and renovation, the interest rates are soon to be increased.

replicate this in all economies that have experienced huge rises in house prices

where building has dominated --- the fall back will be steep

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Raises the point - how will a rise in home loan interest rates ultimately affect Missile Defense programs on the global scale ... if advanced-economies SLOW?

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rshow55 - 08:13am Nov 2, 2003 EST (# 16181 of 16228)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Just above - lchic gave an excellent critique of the " logic " of our MD programs. We have to learn to make peace so it works - instead.

From my first day on this thread:

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md266.htm

rshowalt - 07:36am Sep 25, 2000 EDT (#269 of 396)

Human actions work best according to the following pattern:

"Get scared .... take a good look ..... get organized ..... fix it .... recount so all concerned are "reading from the same page ...... go on to other things."

I believe that elimination of nuclear weapons should proceed according to this pattern, with details well crafted enough so that the pattern worked for almost all people in the world. It would be a major challenge to disarm in a way that was aesthetically pleasing, and understood to be honorable, by all concerned. I believe that people are artistically perceptive enough to meet this challenge.

I believe that we could do it soon, and that we should do it soon.

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Repeat

Human actions work best according to the following pattern:

"Get scared .... take a good look ..... get organized ..... fix it .... recount so all concerned are "reading from the same page ...... go on to other things."

We need to take a good look at what happened during the Cold War - face some things - and fix them. Nobody should be happier to do that than the people who run the New York Times.

There's a lot of wisdom in " old stuff " but to get it right takes sorting - coherence - and fit to purpose.

When reading denials of NYT involvement from some hostile posters here, I'm reminded of some scences from

The Wizard Of Oz -- Movie Script transcribed by Paul Rudoff script copyright © 1939 Metro-Goldwyn-Meyer. http://www.un-official.com/The_Daily_Script/ms_wizoz.htm

lchic - 08:17am Nov 2, 2003 EST (# 16182 of 16228)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

The YELLOW BRICK ROAD to peace starts in the mind .....

    Toto's got it!

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