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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:18am Oct 31, 2003 EST (# 16041 of 16046)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Moscow Freezes Billions in Stock of Oil Producer By STEVEN LEE MYERS and ERIN E. ARVEDLUND http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/31/international/europe/31RUSS.html is an interesting piece, and makes me think of these things from this thread.

A section before Lchic posted "the moment of Effective Truth," 12402-3 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.JAYUbkF3TI1.300849@.f28e622/14055 speaks of the

"job of figuring out how America could be, in some unavoidable ways, a "command economy" while also maintaining the freedoms and excellences of a free counry. (I'd written a paper with some connections to those problems as an intern at Ernst and Ernst the summer of 1967, and he (Eisenhower) had read it. )

America had to be both a competent command economy and a free democracy. It was a "contradiction" that he felt we had to find a way to sustain workably and gracefully. I think he was right about that. We haven't dealt with is workably and gracefully yet, and need to.

That connects to

Moscow Freezes Billions in Stock of Oil Producer By STEVEN LEE MYERS and ERIN E. ARVEDLUND http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/31/international/europe/31RUSS.html?hp

The Yukos affair has highlighted a central political struggle in Russia between reform-minded officials favoring a market economy and others, often with a background in the security services, who are determined to retain a strong dose of state control. Mr. Putin has been trying to steer a course between the two.

People involved might review the government boards that reviewed (and forcefully revised) government contracts, including military contracts, deemed to have worked out unfairly during the Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy administrations. I think Eisenhower's worked best.

rshow55 - 08:20am Oct 31, 2003 EST (# 16042 of 16046)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

We need to have force available, ask for change, and respond so that it has a chance to occur.

12397-99 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.JAYUbkF3TI1.300849@.f28e622/14050

I'm very proud of what I wrote in Psychwarfare, Casablanca, and terror - - and I would have been very proud to have either Eisenhower read it - especially the part I posted on Sep 26-27, 2000, and especially the part from #21 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/20 on, including this basic point:

. The only way to fix up the relation between Elsa and Rick, so they can stay sane, is a recapitulation of what happened. · ***

I'm going to be taking it slower - spending some time in-laws in Chicago, for the next couple of days.

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