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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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cantabb - 04:47am Oct 29, 2003 EST (# 15851 of 15884)

fredmoore - 03:44am Oct 29, 2003 EST (# 15850 of 15850)

Another veld-view !

Cantabbelle

I mean C#CK-A-DOODLE-DO?

You are too biggoted to comprehend the depth of your blatant hipocracy Cantabb. At least that hipocracy should be clear to all others.

Big words for you ! Check the spelling, schoolyard-barnyard freddie ! Also, check the definition, too Still have that dictionary by you ? "[T]oo biggoted" ? My "blatant hipocracy" ?

How did you divine that ? And, NOT your own veld-barnyard-juvenilia ?

PS I enjoy the schoolyard ...

We know you DO. See it all the time.

why are you so ashamed of your barnyard?

Sorry, NO "barnyard" within a good 100 mile radius! If I had one nearby, I'd visit it to know and smell what you must experience daily, but I doubt I'd live (wallow in) there as you seem to. Americans who have barnyards, you may have heard, are proud of them, and resent any comparison with those in your velds.

ROTFLMAO

In the barnyard ? That explains a lot !

cantabb - 04:49am Oct 29, 2003 EST (# 15852 of 15884)

fredmoore - 03:44am Oct 29, 2003 EST (# 15850 of 15850)

"Irregardless" of your veld-view, that is .....

lchic - 05:07am Oct 29, 2003 EST (# 15853 of 15884)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Truth

There was an interesting article in The Weekend Australian magazine. A guy (Grahame Walsh) who has taken an interest in the cave paintings in Northern Australia found patronage and now has a book 'Bradshaw Art of the Kimberly'.

The pre=history of Australia is seen by the indigenous community as stretching back into the 'Dreamtime'.

Walsh looked at cave paintings that were Ancient Egyptian in Art style.

A nice elderly lady bought Walsh a couple of quad motor bikes ... and later determined she's meet up with Walsh, ride a quad, and visit his camp ....Walsh met up with her down south ... there was much talk about the rock art trail ...

    he told ' her that in camp he ate fish ... and she said what fish, recalls Walsh. "I'd say it was tuna; she'd ask how we cooked it. I'd say it was tinned; she'd ask what brand. I'd say it was Black and Gold - and she'd say that for her part that home brand was quite acceptable. Well at that point I just had to invite her up to the Kimberley."
She helicopters around the art sites ....

" Such figures. Beautiful, elegant. They almost have charisma, even charm - that dangerous thing. I'm so happy to have seen them. I only hope I sufvive long enough to see some of the great breakthroughs made."

She pauses rather gravely, then continues. "Of course you know, when I was younger, I didn't realise the importance of our history. all the history I ever knew about was since 1788. This art has opened up so many questions in the last few years in my mind. Why, for instance, did these artist, whoever they were, come up to these remote places to paint? I think it's crucial that we establish as part of our heritage the history of Australia. After all, Australia's the oldest piece of land in the world, and this, right here where we are in the Kimberley, is a unique, ancient part of Australia.

It's somehow in tune with itself. And what is it saying? Is it telling us anything about the mind of Aboriginal Australia?

We can't avoid this issue, and I think this is so difficult. The way Aboriginals think is different from the way we think, and so it's hard to get on common ground. How to surmount this? There needs to be a better understanding in Australia of how we can best help the Aboriginals with education and health. ..... These quesions were already in the air when my husband was alive - but he died 50 years ago, when the understanding of how difficult the problems were was only just starting to emerge. .... We don't know the past unless we knwo the whole of the past. ... " Dame Elizabeth Murdoch.

lchic - 05:19am Oct 29, 2003 EST (# 15854 of 15884)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

It's cheering to read that Rupert (FOX) Murdoch's mum aspires to the establishment of 'truth' and sees the need for 'common provision' of health and education - to a high standard - for indigenous peoples.

That she's grappled for over half a century with Australian Stomper problems.

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So what has the above to do with MD

Dame Elizabeth didn't mention it .... so ... in the minds of many MD probably just doesn't figure! Yet people ensuring provision for others IS important.

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