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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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cantabb
- 02:16pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (#
15798 of 15814)
At least ONE of the basic things we learned from 9/11 is
that it does NOT have to be a 'missile' launched from anywhere
else.
This country will do whatever it takes to protect its
citizens [Most other civilized countries, I believe, feel the
same way, depending on their resources]. We don't look to
Australia, South Africa or EU countries to do this for us.
Solutions proposed by different countries may well be good
enough for them, and their protection, depending on their need
to divert their resources toward this end. But it would be
unreasonable of any country (including our own US) to think
that one country's individual solution should/would be
acceptable to other countries (or work equally well).
The world never was, is or will be free of conflicts: just
documented human nature, a given ! The question then is how
long can we maintain a relatively conflict-free period -- for
ourselves and other countries. Resources used in preparation
of or for self-protection in a confliction can all be better
used for many other worthwhile projects -- but you would NOT
have much of anything IF you can not protect yourself and feel
within your borders. NOT an easy dilemma ! We're made acutely
aware of it on 9/11.
jorian319
- 02:18pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (#
15799 of 15814) The earth spin rate is slowing 2
msc/day as evidenced by the additon of a leap second every 500
days - James "I failed math" Nienhuis
Yes, Blue. Good stuff, thanks.
I am concerned, though about the failure to differentiate
offensive and defensive technologies (not that I know of any
practical way to do so) as this will certainly slow the
"trickle" to a drip.
rshow55
- 02:28pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (#
15800 of 15814) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Cantabb says - "But it would be unreasonable of any
country (including our own US) to think that one
country's individual solution should/would be acceptable to
other countries (or work equally well)." (emphasis added)
Suppose for think about you subsitute assume?
Solutions that worked well enough for everybody -
even very well - aren't necessarily impossible, either. But
there needs to be ways of thinking about and constructing
them.
At the beginning of the year I thought this might be the
year people could learn to do that.
I'm not posting a lot, just now - hoping somebody with
power could take a simple, cheap, low risk step that might
make that possible.
jorian319
- 02:39pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (#
15801 of 15814) The earth spin rate is slowing 2
msc/day as evidenced by the additon of a leap second every 500
days - James "I failed math" Nienhuis
Solutions that worked well enough for
everybody - even very well - aren't necessarily impossible,
either.
Solutions to WHAT Robert? Are you still talking about your
personal problems as if they were everyone's biggest concern?
If not, please give ONE SPECIFIC example we can use to try and
figure out WTF you're talking about.
But there needs to be ways of thinking about
and constructing them.
Them? Solutions? Again, to WHAT?
somebody with power could take a simple,
cheap, low risk step that might make that possible.
Make WHAT possible? How would you know if it were to "come
to pass"?
I think that 99.99% of all possible solutions to problems
that could be articulated here would go right past you,
Robert. That's because you're myopically transfixed on
something, the nature of which is only known to forum
participants in that it cannot be divined from your posts.
bluestar23
- 02:46pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (#
15802 of 15814)
"question then is how long can we maintain a relatively
conflict-free period "
Until the advent of the general stability brought about by
Democratic societies (they don't generally attack each
other)....most stability has actually been brought about by
one power's hegemony. This is not a historical lesson people
want to learn, but look at the past of centuries or millenia;
the great Empires guaranteed "peace" within thier extensive
borders. The Roman Empire, the Habsburg Empire..the British
Empire. Although the getting of these Empires required some
degree of bloody conquest, once carried out, they then
provided the stability for centuries....so perhaps what we
need is a new global hegemony of the USA, which is an
enlightened Great Power, compared to any in the past. America
should therefore play a greater role in the world, not less...
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